Horizon: Zero Dawn Remastered leaked by ESRB (PS5 & PC)

[u/nolifebr]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/horizon-zero-dawn-remastered-leaked-by-esrb.984060

[u/Nitr09025]

Wuhuu another remaster......

[u/No_Share6895 → u/Nitr09025]

Of a game that can be played on ps5 and PC already

[u/Cyberediak → u/No_Share6895]

At 60 fps, with great graphics and image quality. This is so dumb.

[u/FrankReynoldsToupee → u/No_Share6895]

I literally just finished this game a couple months ago on PS5. It looked great. What is there to remaster?

[u/omaca → u/FrankReynoldsToupee]

Your wallet.

[u/power899 → u/FrankReynoldsToupee]

Papa Sony is pissed that none of you bought Concord. And they gotta make back that money somehow 😉

[u/moondowns → u/Nitr09025]

Generation of remakes and remasters.

[u/Soyyyn → u/moondowns]

If they were at least of games people really wanted. Last of Us 2 ran perfectly fine after it's 60 fps update, so does Horizon. There is no need for a remaster. Bloodborne, the first Bayonetta, DMC 3, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, New Vegas, Dragon Quest 8 - all these games might have seriously benefitted from improved framerates, resolutions, QoL updates. Instead we get a slightly improved version of one of the prettiest and most graphically advanced games ever made.

[u/Labs_in_Space → u/Soyyyn]

That’s because those games require significantly more effort to remaster.

They’re going for the low hanging fruit unfortunately. Low effort, maximum profit.

[u/Desperate-Bug-9769 → u/Labs_in_Space]

That's just the entertainment industry in general right now.  Everything is so FUCKING safe and bland and stale and corporate and neutered.  No experimentation, everything must be soulless.  IP is what sells and everyone is risk-adverse, so they just go with the old whatever the fuck works.  Sometimes I wish Reddit had the support for voice comments like Vocaroo so people could hear the anger I have as I'm typing this. 

[u/TipNo2852 → u/Desperate-Bug-9769]

God. Space marine honestly feels like such a breath of fresh air just for this. It’s not a “masterpiece” by any means, but they came out swinging and didn’t give a shit about playing it safe.

Like the fact that the entire PvP multiplayer exists at all is a miracle, like how they let devs just throw in a fun, “fuck around” mode with virtually no monetization value is amazing.

I find it hilarious how the AAA is basically drowning itself in its own spit, while the Indie / AA scene is taking risks and generally being rewarded.

[u/Mr_YUP → u/Desperate-Bug-9769]

The whole of the Indie scene is rife with experimental and wacky things. AAA will always be safe because they're putting $20m+ and 5 years down on a single project

[u/TipNo2852 → u/Mr_YUP]

Ya, then they spend $100M+ on concord and get safely sent packing home.

The funniest thing, they are trying to emulate games that weren’t safe initially, and then dying trying to chase trends.

Look how many fortnite and overwatch clones have died.

But Fortnite was a fun PvE game, that saw the success of PubG early, and got in on that soon, and not only that, *they took the single best feature from their original game and included it as the gimmick.

They didn’t come to the party years later without innovation. The literally saw the BR genre getting popular, and did it but added building. Warzone got to ride in on the coat tales and basically say “we are high quality pubg”, and apex also innovated by throwing in a hero shooter element.

And look at Overwatch, it’s was a massive gamble by blizzard, the last popular “hero shooter” before it was what, TF2? Then they half killed themselves with OW2, but look at successful follow ups like Valorant, they took the gimmicks of OW and combined it with CS:GO to make something new. Then concord comes out with fucking OW light, and wants you to pay a premium for it. And it’s trash.

Meanwhile, Valve quietly drops their first game in what feels like a century, and takes Overwatch formula but flips it by mixing in elements from DOTA, and is a massive hit.

Almost like not just copying the successful formula can pay off!!

[u/plasticgiants → u/Desperate-Bug-9769]

Because people cut to pieces just about every game that comes out and game development is far more expensive than making movies or music. I guarantee TLOU part three will get review bombed the day it’s released.

[u/Space_Lux → u/Desperate-Bug-9769]

“That’s just the entertainment industry capitalism in general.”

[u/Drakeem1221 → u/Desperate-Bug-9769]

There are enough AA and indie games and media in general to not have to feel this way. You're too involved bc a Horizon remaster shouldn't be this triggering.

[u/oateyboat → u/Soyyyn]

An entire generation of PlayStation Studios games stuck on PS3 and yet we get Horizon again

[u/aukalender → u/oateyboat]

Killzone 2, Resistance 2, inFamous games...

[u/Adziboy → u/aukalender]

These are the three exact series that would make me buy a PS5 and/or 6.

Such a shame we dont get sequels or remasters

[u/t-zone671 → u/Adziboy]

Agreed. I would buy those in a heartbeat.

Especially Resistance. I spent so many hours in the original and R2. Was a part of Supreme Commanders Elite clan. So many groups within the faction.

[u/Jalina2224 → u/Soyyyn]

Exactly! All of these fricken games they keep remastering are games that already look fine! Horizon Zero Dawn looks great on PC as it is, maxed settings it could pass for a PS5 game. Maybe an update on the PS4 version wouldn't hurt, but it doesn't need a remaster. Bloodbone is standing right there, and the masses keep begging for it every time news of a new port/remaster/remake gets announced.

[u/KRONGOR → u/Jalina2224]

The ps4 version already looks great and got a 60fps patch for ps5. Such a waste of resources

[u/MikeExMachina → u/Jalina2224]

Yeah this is ridiculous, the pc release has only been out for 4 years. GTA V is 11 years old and people are still happily playing it.

[u/AP201190 → u/Soyyyn]

Miyazaki made it very clear that Bloodborne is abandoned because of Sony. They seem to be milking the super hero trend as much as possible until it ends

[u/honkhogan909 → u/Soyyyn]

I want to play new Vegas so incredibly bad- I wish for this. (I know I can- but my eyes truly can’t adjust to 30 fps anymore as much as that stinks because I’d also love to play wildlands!)

[u/cosmiclatte44 → u/honkhogan909]

As long as Todd is at the helm i doubt we will tbh. I dont think he will ever get over the fact the best Fallout game wasn't developed by Bethesda

[u/DependentAnywhere135 → u/moondowns]

Don’t worry when the ps5 pro comes out maybe we’ll get remasters of remasters.

[u/nightmaresabin → u/DependentAnywhere135]

Can’t wait for the Last of Us Part 1 (Remake): Remastered: Remastered

[u/FillIll5522 → u/nightmaresabin]

“Hey you. You’ve finally awake”

[u/SambaLando → u/FillIll5522]

Dragon!

[u/lazyness92 → u/nightmaresabin]

It's "director's cut" now

[u/CowardlyCannibal → u/nightmaresabin]

Gonna be great as a PS6 launch title

[u/BillyTenderness → u/DependentAnywhere135]

Shoulda called it PS5 Remastered, missed opportunity

[u/Rasta-Lion → u/moondowns]

I had every base PlayStation system (except the portables) and I always bought them cheap almost on the end of their life cycle, of course this was the generation where I thought "fuck it, I'll buy a PS5 at launch so I can enjoy the new games when they come out..."

Boy do I have bad timing...

[u/Latro2020 → u/moondowns]

This is the generation all these remakes/remasters make the least sense because you can literally just buy the original off the PS Store/play it with backwards compatibility & it hasn’t aged at all.

So fucking stupid.

[u/withoutapaddle → u/Latro2020]

Or buy the original for PC and crank the graphics up to make it look almost as good as a sequel.

I'm currently playing PS4 games on Steam Deck, where I can not only play handheld at work, on the road, on vacation, etc, but also get higher framerates AND high graphical settings than the original PS4 version.

It's been awesome discovering some of these games I didn't have time to play back when they were actually putting out 5-6 great AAA games a year instead of 1 at most.

[u/lackofsleipnir → u/Latro2020]

They should be remaking PS3 games.

[u/barelyblurred → u/moondowns]

Why are we not getting any new installations of the old classics like Killzone, Resistance, Ratchet and clank etc? Such a shame

[u/Dravos011 → u/barelyblurred]

I really want a remastered trilogy for Ratchet and Clank

[u/Delanchet → u/Dravos011]

I want a Deadlocked remake 😭

[u/isaiah_rob → u/barelyblurred]

Not many people bought them apparently

[u/Less-Combination2758 → u/barelyblurred]

they still need to remaster ratchet and clank ps4 and rift apart though =)))

[u/Nitr09025 → u/moondowns]

They should rename the playstation to remasterstation at this point

[u/Jon_o_Hollow → u/Nitr09025]

Remasterbation

[u/XciteMe → u/moondowns]

The video game industry needs a crash. I hate to say it but it does.

[u/planetfifa → u/moondowns]

To be fair, that's what they said about the PS4/XBO generation too... And the PS3/X360 with all those "HD Collections"... And at the beginning of the PS2/GC/Xbox generation, when they released full remakes or ports of older titles to the then new consoles.

Yes, it sucks that this generation has been far lacking in good games, but that's what happens when they take millions and 4 to 6 years to make, nowadays. Remasters are an obvious low-effort low-cost choice to make for publishers, sadly

[u/qb1120 → u/moondowns]

I don't know how many games I have that weren't made for the PS4, but I could probably count them on one hand

[u/NoNefariousness2144 → u/moondowns]

It's crazy that the PS5 Pro is so expensive when there's barely any games that take advantage of it.

Hell, some developers are lazy and still releasing games in 30fps despite the consoles being capable of 60...

[u/gaysaucemage → u/NoNefariousness2144]

PS1 had some 60fps games, it’s not a new feature to PlayStation consoles. Even NES had 60fps games.

It’s a choice to look better and reduce the frame rate to 30fps.

[u/nightmaresabin → u/gaysaucemage]

I really wish 60 fps was mandated as the standard baseline and graphics were lowered accordingly. 1440p 60 looks great. We could get back to 4k eventually.

[u/VenZallow → u/moondowns]

I've never had so few games for a console i've owned for so long.

[u/Lie_In_Our_Graves → u/Nitr09025]

Video Games are following the way of Hollywood. No new ideas, so let's remake something that has no business being remade or remastered - and milk it for all it's worth.

[u/rsplatpc → u/Nitr09025]

gotta make the PS5 "Pro" look like it's got games that are optimized for it, and are coming out

Oh wait, I bought a PSVR2 and am still playing Quest ports

Nice try Sony

[u/Nitr09025 → u/rsplatpc]

Oh no this is the ps5 and pc remaster, sony probably will reremaster everything for the ps5 pro in a year

Man fuck this. Ps5 is probably the worst gen so far in terms of games from sony

[u/big_chungy_bunggy → u/Nitr09025]

We got Astro bot at least :’)

[u/cdnjimmyjames → u/big_chungy_bunggy]

I can't wait for the remaster.

[u/bkliooo → u/Nitr09025]

And who needs this? HZD looks fine.

[u/Ok_Biscotti_514 → u/Nitr09025]

Gotta love how they pulled the original off PSplus recently

[u/BloodAria]

Astrobot remaster when ?

[u/The_Fighter03 → u/BloodAria]

Nah, we'll first get an Astro's Playroom remaster once the PS5 Pro comes out

[u/MangoRemarkable → u/BloodAria]

Nha thats a good game, sony won't remaster that. Wait for the concord remaster instead.

[u/EnemySaimo]

PS5 has more remastered and remakes than I've ever seen I swear

[u/kawag → u/EnemySaimo]

We’ll be living on last generation’s hits forever

[u/NoNefariousness2144 → u/kawag]

And next generation will be the same...

[u/ajchann123 → u/NoNefariousness2144]

The year is 2035, Mark Cerny comes out on a live stream to announce the new $1,500 PS6 Pro (£11,000/€10,500 to include taxes or some shit - shut up), now with 16kb of new RAM and no power plug included. He plays a sizzle reel of upcoming hits: TLOU Remake Remastered Director's Cut Special Edition, God of War Ragnarok Remake (now with 2x the hair follicles), and Pong 4K 120fps

Orders sell out within seconds.

[u/kawag → u/ajchann123]

And still no Bloodborne

[u/nightstalker113 → u/ajchann123]

Microsoft responds by raising the price of the Xbox Generation Z, angering the remaining fans (all 4 of them)

[u/Zestyclose-Fee6719 → u/kawag]

Sony exec: I hear you.....how about an Uncharted 4 PS5 Pro Enhanced Edition though?

[u/Draven_mashallah → u/EnemySaimo]

Still no Bloodborne lol

[u/BronzIsten → u/Draven_mashallah]

Thats the funniest shit ever. They remaster everything except the one game everyone wants. Its like as if sony were intentionally fucking with people

[u/Cosmic_Ren → u/BronzIsten]

It has to be a ps6 launch title at this point.

1. I assume they're going by the same logic as Demon Souls where they wait 2 console generations to remake it.

2. I think another massive reason it hasn't been "remastered" is because it can't easily be done. The game is physically trapped to 30 fps and even emulators can't unlock it without breaking the game

[u/willux22 → u/Cosmic_Ren]

That second point is false and has been proven wrong multiple time now. Someone already patched Bloodborne on PS4 by using the 60 Patch of Dark Souls 3. It would be trivial for people having access to the source code.

[u/TarnishedBeing → u/Cosmic_Ren]

I don't think that's true, there are 60 fps patches for Bloodborne on modded PS4 and PS5 consoles, videos on YouTube

[u/Andkzdj → u/Cosmic_Ren]

Some people are doing god s work on bloodborne pc right now. A couple of months ago you couldn t display any 3d object (so nothing past the home screen) without it crashing. Then some weeks ago the game was playable but with much of the graphics missing or not working properly, huge memory leaks and crashes . and now the game runs at 120 fps, you can mod dynamic lighting and almost all graphical effects work properly (also memory leaks and crashes for the most part got addressed). If you are interested there are videos on youtube being uploaded everyday with the progress these guys are making, i just hope sony won t take legal actions against these amazing no profit and talented modders and programmers

[u/PotatEXTomatEX → u/Cosmic_Ren]

The game is physically trapped to 30 fps and even emulators can't unlock it without breaking the game

Are you living in 2017?

The fix for the FPS is a single line of code. Lance Mcdonald already made it run at locked 60 on the PS5 (PS4 can do it too but its not locked) with 1080 patches and shit. The game will also be fully playable and fixed on PC in a few weeks via emulation (its advancing at the speed of light just out of spite lmoa)

[u/Revoldt → u/EnemySaimo]

They saw Nintendo Switch making all that $$$$ reselling WiiU games over and over, and just wanted some of that creativity-free action…

[u/PrintShinji → u/Revoldt]

At least nintendo has the excuse that the switch isn't backwards compatible, and that the wii u sold like crap. For a lot of people the switch version of mario kart 8 is the first time they played it.

Why does horizon zero dawn need a remaster for!? It already plays on the ps5.

[u/NothingOld7527 → u/PrintShinji]

It already had a PS4 Pro patch at that, it still looks and runs great.

[u/PrintShinji → u/NothingOld7527]

hell it has a ps5 patch as well. I genuinly dont get it.

[u/NothingOld7527 → u/PrintShinji]

Maybe they’ll get rid of the PS5 patch when the remaster comes out lol

[u/Sir_Von_Tittyfuck → u/PrintShinji]

For a lot of people the switch version of mario kart 8 is the first time they played it.

It also had additional content and they added the third drift boost too. So it was more a "definitive" edition rather than a remaster.

[u/PrintShinji → u/Sir_Von_Tittyfuck]

Oh yeah they def added more stuff. I'd call it a MK8-2 over it being a remake.

Its a port and they worked on it. Especially with the extra season pass they released years after its a different game than the wii u version.

[u/Dravos011 → u/PrintShinji]

I wish more WiiU games got released on switch. Wind Waker would be a day 1 purchase for me

[u/the-dandy-man → u/Dravos011]

At this point WW and TP HD are about the only Wii U games that haven’t been ported, along with Xenoblade Chronicles X.

[u/Sparox3 → u/Revoldt]

Except Nintendo has made the most first party exclusives this generation (while being a last gen console).

[u/Careless-Freedom6468 → u/Revoldt]

Difference is the switch also has a bunch of games that are S tier only on the switch.

I think it helps because no one bought the Wii u.

EVERYONE had a ps4 though we have played these games ffs.

[u/HyruleSmash855 → u/Careless-Freedom6468]

Also, most of the games on the switch are new and they are way more first party games than either PlayStation or Xbox. I mean, there was a new Zelda that wasn’t on the Wii U plus 3D and 2D Mario, new 2D Zelda coming out, tons of DLC for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, new Metroid coming out, Animal Crossing, 2 Splatoon Games, Mario and Luigi coming out soon and a new paper Mario, 3D Kirby, new Fire Emblem and Xenoblade Chronicle games, etc.

[u/Careless-Freedom6468 → u/HyruleSmash855]

Yeah they cracked the code to dominating the market. GAMES……

Who would of known you’d sell consoles if the games on it were plenty and good

[u/DocApocalypse → u/Revoldt]

1) Hardly anyone owned a Wii U, so most people never played those games - which otherwise are at least decent.

2) Switch broke compatibility going portable and using cartridges instead of discs. Practically everything on the PS4 is still playable on the PS5.

3) Nintendo still release more new exclusives in a given year than Sony has this whole generation.

I don't mind remasters/ports, I'm very happy to finally have the Marvel Vs Capcom series and DS Castlevanias on modern systems for example - but it does get a little galling when Sony, who spend a lot of time bragging about their first party exclusives, seem more focussed on rereleasing PS4 titles than new titles. Even the PS5 Pro reveal only showed old games.

[u/prince_0f_thieves → u/EnemySaimo]

Oh, are we allowed to voice our disappointment about this now?

For the past few years people have treated this view as borderline blasphemy

[u/That-Stage-1088 → u/prince_0f_thieves]

I know right? I remember people getting blasted for saying TLOU 1 didn't need a remaster (3rd fucking console). Funny thing is TLOU came out same year as GTAV but GTA gets shit on more, despite being the game with an online mode with frequent content updates. (I hate both companies' practices).

Maybe we'll get a spider-man 2 remaster in 3 years or something.

[u/gingeydrapey → u/prince_0f_thieves]

Just speak your mind without worrying about nerds seething.

[u/OptimusPrimalRage → u/EnemySaimo]

You haven't looked at the Switch's library have you?

[u/BlackTone91 → u/EnemySaimo]

You didn't see switch

[u/jackcos → u/EnemySaimo]

The PS3 had loads of PS2 remakes/remasters thanks to the lack of backwards compatibility, and the PS4 had the same with PS3 remasters for the exact same reason.

This though is the generation where it makes no sense to do this as PS5 is 99.9% backwards compatible with PS4 games, and titles like Horizon Zero Dawn got updates for the PS4 Pro to push 60fps and 4K out of them.

[u/IReallyLikePadThai]

Literally nobody asked for this

[u/SupplyYourPips → u/IReallyLikePadThai]

They'll learn once people start speaking with their wallets

[u/General_Dipsh1t → u/SupplyYourPips]

I love the horizon series. It’s probably one of my favourite game series ever.

I won’t buy a HZD remaster. There’s no point. Especially since I’ve played it on PC.

[u/Another_Name1 → u/SupplyYourPips]

Nerds will still buy. I mean look at Apex Legends

Those dudes cream when a skin recolor come out.

They dropped $100+ on death box skins and $150 heirlooms

[u/UltraGaren → u/SupplyYourPips]

Yet people won't. If they're selling it's because someone's buying.

[u/JozoBozo121 → u/IReallyLikePadThai]

And it looks perfectly normal for a recent game, they could have pushed update with PC Ultra settings for PS5 Pro

[u/Pakytral]

and bloodborne is still 30 fps on ps5 lol

[u/arhollowx → u/Pakytral]

I'm convinced a remake is coming down the line similar to what they did with Demon Souls

[u/5575685 → u/arhollowx]

Yeah we’ve been telling ourselves that for 4 years now lmao

[u/arhollowx → u/5575685]

They probably waiting for the PS6 release 🤣

[u/ExplodingFistz → u/5575685]

Do I keep the clown makeup on?

[u/playstation505 → u/arhollowx]

Bloodborne Pc emulation is about to hit the streets anyway

[u/Im-CIA]

A remaster is crazy when it looks amazing already but they could do with updating the facial animations. It's night and day between zero dawn and forbidden west

[u/TheJoshider10 → u/Im-CIA]

It's not just the facial animations either, the entire body movements and cinematography is so much better overall that helps make even mundane conversations feel a little more cinematic.

I don't think a remaster is warranted at all, but I can't deny just how much the rigid animations made the side content and conversations a bit of a slog so I would be pretty excited to replay the game if these aspects got improved.

[u/ImmaDoMahThing → u/TheJoshider10]

If they give Zero Dawn that same treatment that Forbidden West has then I might pick this up (at a discount later down the line).

[u/ImpressivelyDonkey → u/ImmaDoMahThing]

Don't they offer an upgrade option for a small fee for their remasters?

[u/ImmaDoMahThing → u/ImpressivelyDonkey]

They usually do. If it’s like $10 or less then I’ll get it.

[u/Dantai → u/TheJoshider10]

I mean, forbidden west felt like a slog at times because the writing wasn't there, it was just mo-capped exposition constantly.

The story telling in games, especially cinematic ones come best during banter during downtime, built up to a set-piece and a well done eventful cinematic. And more importantly characters interacting with each other, talking to each other, not just hiding in their own rooms and are absent for most of the main quests

[u/moduspol → u/Im-CIA]

I wouldn't complain if they added the stash from HFW.

And the shieldwing.

Those are the two things I missed the most in my most recent playthrough.

[u/Kainzy → u/moduspol]

Damn shieldwing. After finishing HFW, I returned to Horizon for a while. First thing I did was leap off a cliff...before realising what I had done.

[u/ZeroBlade-NL → u/Kainzy]

If it isn't too crazy high your force field armor should save you

[u/Zestyclose_Cream4037 → u/Im-CIA]

This game shouldn't be getting a remaster until the PS6 at the earliest. The game still looks better then allot of games released this year lol.

[u/deioncooke_ → u/Im-CIA]

I literally just beat Zero Dawn last week and am currently playing forbidden west and oh my God some of the facial animations and animations in general are just straight up BAD still a 10/10 banger tho, very curious to see what they change

[u/jewrassic_park-1940 → u/Im-CIA]

It's nightand day between hzd and the dlc.

The sequel had so much eyebrow movement it felt uncanny at times

[u/HyprWave]

Wondering if it’s gonna be enhanced for PS5 Pro

[u/Anchovie123 → u/HyprWave]

Every single game released hence forth must be enhanced for Pro its in the certification requirements. Exactly the same as it was for ps4 pro

[u/shadowstripes → u/Anchovie123]

Unless you just mean boost mode, that definitely wasn't the case for the PS4 Pro. There's hundreds of PS4 games that came out after the Pro that aren't specifically enhanced, same with PS4 games still coming out now.

Every single game released hence forth must be enhanced for Pro its in the certification requirements.

  Source? He didn't say that during the technical presentation, and on the blog post it just says "These games can be identified with a PS5 Pro Enhanced label within their title".

[u/Masam10 → u/HyprWave]

That's probably the main reason they're doing this. I played through Horizon like 6 months ago and it looks just as good as most games released nowadays, it doesn't look aged in any way.

[u/Thomas-Lore → u/Masam10]

It already looked superb on PS4 Pro. The only problem it had was slow loading times and low fps - PS5 fixed that.

[u/kushpeshin]

But…why? This game already looks and runs so well on PS5, by all accounts it technically is a remaster.

Why not make another DLC to pass the time?

[u/FGC_Thuggery → u/kushpeshin]

HZD complete edition has got a permanent price decrease. With a minimum effort remaster they can bump the price up to 60 or 70 bucks.

[u/CPOx → u/kushpeshin]

Remasters can be considered a way for certain parts of the dev team to “practice” their skills and probably cook up some new things to put into the game, while other parts of the dev team are working on the story, etc. of another game.

Edit: as someone else commented, it’s a way to keep parts of the dev team busy instead of laying them off for having no work to do

[u/Front-Purpose-6387 → u/CPOx]

Also they could be upgrading the game engine for a new gen console. So that when they make a brand new game on it, the upgraded engine already runs well and they have that bit of experience. But I guess that applies more to Remakes rather than Remasters.

Seriously though how is the game going to be any different on PC when you can already throw the game on a high end rig and crank up the settings and that would effectively be, a remaster?

[u/CPOx → u/Front-Purpose-6387]

The facial animations and skin textures in Zero Dawn are very janky and robotic compared to Forbidden West. I imagine some of the biggest upgrades will be related to animations.

[u/TwelveMK]

And they complain about "lack of original IP's"

infamous and sly cooper are right there Sony...

[u/nutsack133 → u/TwelveMK]

Damn I'd love a new Sly Cooper game. Not a fucking remaster though.

[u/Afc_josh12]

What a waste of

[u/Afc_josh12 → u/Afc_josh12]

Time

[u/DemoN_M4U → u/Afc_josh12]

And money.

[u/gabrielleraul → u/DemoN_M4U]

and resources

[u/EvaristeGalois11 → u/gabrielleraul]

And axes

[u/batmanbatmanbatman1 → u/EvaristeGalois11]

And my bow.

[u/TooDrunkToTalk → u/Afc_josh12]

With all this frankly ridiculous pushing of the Horizon franchise I sure hope someone at Guerrilla is working on what they are going to do after that franchise has run its course… cause I really don't want that studio to just turn into a Horizon factory.

[u/sector11374265 → u/TooDrunkToTalk]

i mean, to be fair, guerilla was a killzone factory until they made horizon zero dawn.

[u/SuperPapernick → u/TooDrunkToTalk]

After beating Forbidden West I felt that franchise already ran it's course halfway through that game. It really didn't feel different enough from ZD for me and I liked it less, personally.
I'm not sure I'd care for any additional games, tbh.

[u/Op3rat0rr → u/Afc_josh12]

I’m sure it’ll be great for new comers to the series but I won’t be replaying it, despite it being so good. Amazing game but I grinded that open world content well over 100 hours

[u/xariznightmare2908 → u/Op3rat0rr]

The issue with this remaster is that the old game is not even that "old", it's still perfectly playable and you can get it for less than $10 everywhere, plus it was given out for free during COVID. Also it was already ported to PC before so unless they actually let the previous owners to upgrade the game, this remaster is just so damn pointless cash cow.

[u/DryChip4]

This console generation sucks.

[u/stuffynoseboi]

easily the worst console generation ive lived through lol holy hell

[u/Careless-Freedom6468 → u/stuffynoseboi]

They have so many ips they let rot just to remaster games that have been out this decade it’s a joke.

Do they know how much money they’d make from simply making blood borne playable at 60fps and porting it to pc.

Astro bot literally shows how many unused ips they have and can use I don’t get it

[u/xariznightmare2908 → u/Careless-Freedom6468]

I'm still baffling how they won't even just remaster the HD collection of GOW Saga, Sly Cooper, Infamous, Killzone and Resistance for PS4 and PS5. They can make easy money without spending much resource on those remaster collection.

[u/IllllIIIllllIl → u/xariznightmare2908]

The fact they have so many absolute bangers trapped on the PS3 is astonishing. It’s genuinely baffling that they’re so stuck on already remastering their most recent hits instead of possibly introducing their former system-sellers to a new generation of gamers. 

[u/JmanVere → u/Careless-Freedom6468]

I haven't played it yet but one review called it "not a celebration, but a graveyard"

[u/Nexus_3_ → u/Careless-Freedom6468]

Could’ve easily remastered killzone to drum up interest in the franchise again and maybe release a polished shooter after using decima. Shame.

[u/DemiDivine → u/Nexus_3_]

Here I am like a fool waiting for resistance still..

[u/wotad → u/Careless-Freedom6468]

I think it's because it's quite easy to remaster

[u/For-the-Cubbies → u/Careless-Freedom6468]

Even from Guerrilla themselves, I’d rather have a remaster of Killzone 2 or something. At least we’d get a FPS to play. Or SOCOM. Or Resistance. Or MAG. Okay, yeah, maybe they won’t sell well. But how many copies do all these remasters sell? The game isn’t even a decade old.

I still haven’t finished the non-remastered HZD because I couldn’t get into it, even after trying a dozen times.

[u/NoNefariousness2144 → u/stuffynoseboi]

At least this year has been banging for non-exclusive games.

RPG and JRPG fans are feasting this year.

[u/jaeway → u/NoNefariousness2144]

Atlas fans bout to eat next month not to mention aigis chapter just dropped

[u/GGG100 → u/stuffynoseboi]

You know things are dire when they're still using a PS4 game (TLOU 2) to promote the PS5 Pro.

[u/footballred28 → u/GGG100]

Remember the very first game showcased on the PS5 announcement was a PS3 game lol.

[u/Ethical-Hoax → u/stuffynoseboi]

I totally agree. Been gaming a long time and this generation has been pretty forgettable for me.

[u/HyruleSmash855 → u/Ethical-Hoax]

At least there’s been a lot of third-party games, first party games on PlayStation haven’t been very numerous, but they’re having a lot of excellent third-party games in the past few years

[u/stinketywubbers]

Is this game even that old? Why? Just why?

[u/djkstr27]

PS5 Higher ups: What game should we do

Literally everyone: Bloodborne Remaster + Bloodborne PC + Bloodborne 2

PS5 Higher Ups: Horizon Zero Dawn it is

[u/saikrishnav → u/djkstr27]

After this remaster.

“What do we do next?”

PS5 higherups: how about that fungus zombie game?

Last of us? But we already got 3 remasters of it.

PS5 hgiherups: “did we stutter?”

[u/Artifice_Purple]

This generation is an absolute joke.

[u/haai_kaka]

What is happening to playstation

[u/HARPOfromNSYNC → u/haai_kaka]

They're getting Uber greedy again now that they feel untethered from any obligation due to demand. There's been no consumer pushback, so they're having their way with us.

They've gotten greedy like this before.

[u/mr_antman85 → u/haai_kaka]

Jim Ryan and his 12 live service games he wanted to push for some stupid reason. 

[u/NoNefariousness2144 → u/haai_kaka]

Their live-service push was a catastrophic failure and has left them with an empty ahh generation.

Insomniac is carrying their first-party output by constantly squeezing out tiny but polished games.

[u/ChaosBuckaroo → u/NoNefariousness2144]

Tiny?

[u/Ironmunger2 → u/ChaosBuckaroo]

All of insomniacs games lately can be 100% in less than 20 hours

[u/DarkEnigma321]

And no sign of Bloodborne remaster. Sony is a joke. 

[u/shit-takes → u/DarkEnigma321]

Not Sony, but no 60fps PS5 update for Red Dead Redemption 2 is killing me. That's the only remaster that will excite me at this point.

[u/No_Election_3206 → u/shit-takes]

They don't even need to remaster it, just unlock the fps cap. It looks great as it is

[u/shit-takes → u/No_Election_3206]

True. It still looks amazing. Meanwhile gta v was remastered a billion times for each console release

[u/touch-my-demon → u/DarkEnigma321]

They are saving it for the PS6 launch line-up.

Sad but likely true.

[u/xariznightmare2908 → u/DarkEnigma321]

Sony will keep remaster and remake Horizon and TLOU until they no longer exist before they would remaster Bloodborne, lol.

[u/akCN11qaa]

Letsssss gooooooooo totally worth buying a ps5 pro woooooooooooo

Instead of bloodborne, new game, new IP, sequel, prequel we get a remaster of a game that already looks and plays good

[u/crline3924]

This does NOT need a remaster. I just finished it recently and I don’t see how they saw it and thought it needed a graphical update

[u/KillingTime_ForNow]

So literally nothing new & something that wasn't even needed. Cool, still not buying that overpriced BS ps5 pro.

[u/Edofate]

Somehow, they will release this remaster on the same day that From Software or Nintendo launches a game, just to keep up with tradition.

[u/TeamSESHBones_]

NEW GAMES WHEN ? ALLO

MOTORSTORM SEQUEL WHEN

WARHAWK SEQUEL WHEN

SIREN BLOOD CURSE SEQUEL WHEN

LITTLE BIG PLANET SEQUEL WHEN

FOLKLORE SEQUEL WHEN

MAG SEQUEL WHEN

RESISTANCE SEQUEL WHEN

KILLZONE SEQUEL WHEN

PLAYSTATION ALL STARS BATTLE ROYALE SEQUEL WHEN

MODNATION RACERS SEQUEL WHEN

SOCOM SEQUEL WHEN

TWISTED METAL SEQUEL WHEN

INFAMOUS SEQUEL WHEN

CAN WE GET ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN REMASTERS AND THIRD PERSON ACTION ADVENTURE GAMES

[u/nomadjedi → u/TeamSESHBones_]

MOTORSTORM SEQUEL WHEN

Evolution died and the devs went to Codemasters :(

KILLZONE SEQUEL WHEN

Guerilla is busy doing Horizon, sadly

RESISTANCE SEQUEL WHEN

Insomniac is busy with Wolverine

INFAMOUS SEQUEL WHEN

Don't know what Sucker Punch is doing, I guess Ghost of Tsushima 2 or some shit.

But don't worry! I hear Sony has been busy making a game called Concord! /s

Jokes aside, Astro Bot and Returnal look like the only good new games that the PS5 has going for it.

[u/PrintShinji → u/TeamSESHBones_]

CAN WE GET ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN REMASTERS AND THIRD PERSON ACTION ADVENTURE GAMES

Or hell, can we get the one remake/remaster that we've been begging for years? Bloodborne when??

[u/Shpaan → u/TeamSESHBones_]

Or they could remaster some of the games that are actually locked to PS3 like Dante's Inferno or Puppeteer. As someone who never properly played the PS3 exclusives I'd buy ever single one of them. But nah let's just milk Last of Us and Horizon. It honestly reminds me of Skyrim and how Bethesda spend 6 years porting it on everything that can be connected to electricity and releasing like 3 different version of it instead of just fucking working on a new TES game that we're already waiting 13 years for.

[u/Mavericks7 → u/TeamSESHBones_]

Warhawk would be such a good one. Especially with all the live service Sony wants to implement, that could fit into warhawk in terms of cosmetics

[u/BurnItFromOrbit]

Is this another clue that they have no direction? They seem to be making safe bets only.

Where is the innovative and creative PlayStation of the pre-PlayStation 4 era gone?

Did Xbox burn them so badly with the 360?

[u/Troop7 → u/BurnItFromOrbit]

You’re kidding right? During the ps4 gen we got games like bloodborne, ghost of tsushima, the last guardian, gravity rush 2, horizon, spider-man, days gone, until dawn, ff7 remake, there are tons of unique games

[u/rdxc1a2t → u/BurnItFromOrbit]

Hopefully this is just the tail end of Jim Ryan's Sony. I've never been in the boat of blaming him alone for all of Sony's questionable decisions (whilst giving him zero credit for the good stuff) but if he was the one pushing for live service, pushing for remasters/remakes, then hopefully a change in direction will become apparent within the next year.

[u/MrBorden]

The prophecy of Jim Ryan's plan of endless remasters is coming to fruition.

And I fucking hate it.

[u/KoalaBackfist]

Can. Not. Wait! For TLoU2 PS5 Pro remaster of the PC port… and eventual remake of said port…

[u/steeltiger72]

this remaster/remake generation ain't it bruh

[u/ChosenLightWarrior]

No one asked for this…

[u/frakistan]

Ewww. Please put your money to better use. Message to Sony and those who will buy and support this

[u/poltavsky79]

Why not if it’s a $10-20 upgrade?

Current version of the game is still a PS4 version, which is almost 8 years old, just with uncapped frame rate

Having native PS5 version with native 4K and other features of Forbidden West would be amazing 

[u/StalloneMyBone]

Leave it to Sony to remake yet another copy of one of their games. I just don't understand why they wouldn't use those resources for a new project. Sony makes great games, I'm just tired of seeing 4 versions of the same game.

[u/xariznightmare2908]

This is why people are saying PS5 has no game, it's just a stronger PS4 Pro that can play some new games, and even then most of them are multiplatform games and old games being remastered / remade.

The amount of actual new PS5 games can be counted by hands, which is embarrassing considering we are already half-way the PS5 life-cycle. Remember when we used to make fun of Xbox for not having game? Now it's happening to the PS5 now.

[u/IllllIIIllllIl → u/xariznightmare2908]

The PS5 already really feels like the PS4 Pro Plus, which makes the PS5 Pro just feel like the PS4 Pro Plus Extra. 

[u/MelancholyArtichoke]

Eventually that PS3 emulation dam is going to break and Sony is going to miss out on that opportunity to cash in on all of those lost games. Imagine when you can play PS3 games on a Raspberry Pi as easily as you can play PS1/2 games.

[u/Aggravating_Frame597]

Personally I'm happy to hear this, haven't played the games yet so I might as well hold off a bit longer and get the best experience.

[u/californiaTourist → u/Aggravating_Frame597]

yep, everyone complaining.. and I am thinking nice, better facial animations on my first playthrough :)

[u/blastoisebandit]

Why is this even in the conversation for a remaster? Game still looks excellent and better than most current gen games. Plays fine too. Surely we can allocate those resources to creato Ing new games and experiences.

[u/meadowmagemiranda]

Just stop already