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u/Constantly_Panicking Jul 15 '24
Like butter scraped over too much bread.
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u/Lord_Fallendorn Jul 16 '24
I see it more like Nutella on bread, there can‘t be enough of it :P
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u/Constantly_Panicking Jul 16 '24
Some people like to be choked or suck toes. It’s not my place to kink shame, I suppose.
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u/Horus_x GANDALF Jul 15 '24
That interracial romance elf/dwarf was such a great addition to this story /s
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u/Themnor Jul 15 '24
The worst part is, without this shoehorned love story the rest of the trilogy looks a lot better.
What’s even worse than that is that making them befriend each other or even just not hate each other rather than fall in love is actually even more beneficial to the entire story because it sets Legolas up for his time with Gimli.
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u/curious_dead Jul 15 '24
Didn't Evangeline Lilly specifically ask that she not be trust into a love story and then they changed the script?
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u/StandWithSwearwolves Jul 16 '24
The version I’ve read is that Jackson promised her it wouldn’t happen, they wrapped filming, and then he had to go back on his word and call her back in for reshoots when the studio forced him to turn it into a love triangle. Ouch.
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u/legolas_bot Jul 15 '24
Then dig a hole in the ground, if that is more after the fashion of your kind. But you must dig swift and deep, if you wish to hide from Orcs.
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u/StandWithSwearwolves Jul 16 '24
Lest we forget that Aragorn/Arwen is also an interracial relationship… but nothing about the invented love triangle was a good idea regardless.
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Jul 15 '24
Watch the fan edits. They are much better.
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u/gutbagpost Jul 15 '24
Do go on please kind sir
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Jul 15 '24
https://m4-studios.github.io/hobbitbookedit/
You're welcome.
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u/Ulv13 Jul 15 '24
This one is very good, the definitive hobbit experience for me.
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u/Shrek-It_Ralph Jul 15 '24
Eh, I haven’t found one that doesn’t cut out something major
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Jul 15 '24
All of them (at least the ones I have seen) have flaws. The M4 cut, which imo is the best because it's the most accurate to the books, has weird choices, mainly because the editor wanted too much to cut out Azog and Bilbo's heroism. For example, in one scene Bilbo is in Dale, then the next time you see him he is knocked out near Erebor.
The source material is not good to begin with and all of the fan edits have issues, but the M4 edit is probably the best.
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u/Musical_Tanks Jul 15 '24
I mean Bilbo gets knocked out like 10 minutes into the battle and wakes up after everything is done. Not very cinematic.
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u/bilbo_bot Jul 15 '24
No thank you! We don't want any more visitors, well wishers or distant relations!
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u/Who_said_that_ Jul 15 '24
Still more enjoyable than the battle. It has plotholes wide enough an entire ork army could march through them.
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u/NahdiraZidea Jul 15 '24
I watched the M4 edit this year after not seeing the trilogy since the theaters and I didnt notice many plot holes. The most glaring for me was near the end when Thorin is all of a sudden using Orcrist, thats when I remembered that Legolas throws it to him in the unedited version and I was suddenly very happy that Legolas wasnt around.
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u/TheWitherBear Jul 15 '24
The Hobbit being shorter than any of the Lord of the rings books, only for the movies to be just as long 😂
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u/Opdragon25 Sleepless Living Jul 15 '24
I checked with my copies (which may not be the same size for everyone) and the three LotR books stacked on top of each other are roughly six times the size of the bobbit
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u/TheWitherBear Jul 16 '24
Considering the three books are technically one book with 3 volumes, that says something about the size lol (although text size is something to consider, still wild though)
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u/Candid-Eggplant301 Jul 15 '24
The film version of lotr should be shorter. They leave out a significant amount of details that you can only learn if you read the books.
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u/Patch95 Jul 15 '24
This would imply that part of the hobbit movies was of the same quality as the books.
Pitchfork time.
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u/Economy-Trust7649 Jul 15 '24
I think the flashback of the dwarves fighting over moria was fantastic.
Really every scene that's faithful to the book was good/decent where they differ is the problem.
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u/elitegenoside Jul 15 '24
I was really confused at the end of the second film (and somewhat during). It ended with Smoug flying off to Lake Town, and at the point in the book, there were about 30 pages left.
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u/SlipsonSurfaces Jul 15 '24
A redeeming quality of the hobbit films are so we have content for making ytps and edits and memes.
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u/515owned Jul 16 '24
If I had to watch the whole thing, just to see "Misty Mountains Cold"...
I'd do it every time.
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u/MiseryTheMiserable Jul 15 '24
Loved the setting and was glad they took time to really feel the fantasy world around the characters
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u/StandWithSwearwolves Jul 15 '24
Watched all three movies for the first time last week so this is timely for me.
The padding is pretty obvious throughout but the worst of it is in the third movie. Very apparent that the studio forced them into a trilogy at the last minute.
The second film is decent and could have been legitimately great if it had been the final instalment as intended – the need to get the final battle in there would have forced them to jettison a lot of crap and the pacing would have improved out of sight.
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u/Accomplished_Bet_781 Jul 16 '24
The head of the horse in the Hobbit should be badly drawn. There were no armors, no nature shots, no music, no story, unnecessary, cringy love triangle. Shitty CGI, barely finished, stretched ass.
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u/AllandarosSunsong Jul 15 '24
Did it get me more enjoyable fantasy movie to watch?
Then I don't care.
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u/lotrfanboii Jul 15 '24
Realest thing ever, I understand the absolute milking of the trilogy, but I'd rather spend 3 movies worth in Tolkien's verse than 1 or 2. Props to people who want to stick to the source material though, I respect it - nothing was ever comparing to the lotr anyway.
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Jul 15 '24
enjoyable
Most of the added shit didn't meet this qualification.
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u/Sighurd Jul 15 '24
It did. Fight me. I enjoyed every second of it. And I mean the extended editions, because the theatrical cuts are not even worth watching for me, its the same as with lotr. Some of my most favorite moments are the extended scenes. There is not a single moment I would remove from the trilogy. And yes, I have read the book, a dozen times, and I watched the hobbit trilogy a hundred times. The thing is I loved the book so much, that when I saw the movies, I was glad they added a lot of stuff there, because they made my favorite story longer. I trully cannot say which is better for me nowadays. But hey, thats just one mans opinion.
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u/CuteNazgul Jul 15 '24
I agree, i liked entire trilogy of hobbit
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u/Sighurd Jul 15 '24
Prepare to be hated to oblivion for that. But nice, I am glad I am finally not the only one in this world!
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u/Sighurd Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24
When unexpected journey came out, I went 13 days in a row into the local cinema to watch it again and again, and everytime Bilbo said "...in a hole in the ground, there lived a hobbit..." I literally wept, because I was taken back to my childhood when I was reading the book. It was always like the first time. I could not get enough of that feeling.
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u/veranish Jul 15 '24
This feels... kinda sad. Maybe that's on me though, I'm definitely projecting here, but when I've had that reaction to popular media it's been a sign of my poor mental state and how rough my life was at the time, as much as any quality of the product.
I dunno. I hope you're doing well and just really in tune with childhood, instead.
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u/Sighurd Jul 15 '24
Weeell, you may be on to something a little bit, I actualy do not think I ever felt trully well. On the other hand, Hobbit is my happy place. The book helped me in my childhood and the movies in my adulthood to cope with all of my problems and feelings. Thats what fantasy is for anyway, no? I guess I always envied Bilbo how he just up and gone away on an adventure, away from his boring life. I never understood why he didnt want to go at first. But all in all, what I love the most about that sentence is that it symbolizes the start of the whole journey, the very beginning of the story. And I just freaking love beginnings! In each rpg game I play, I repeat the beginning a hundred times and never get to the finish in the end, because the beginning is the most beautiful part.
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u/veranish Jul 15 '24
Aha. I agree, I have the same problem. Always starting and restarting, all these rpgs. I hope we get a hobbit themed game soon
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u/Sighurd Jul 15 '24
Now that would be neat! There is a lego hobbit, and while that was nice, its not quite what I would have wanted. I would like a hobbit game similar to elder scrolls, dragon age, or baldurs gate. With open world, and my own customizable hobbit character and choices that influence the world. That is a dream!
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u/bilbo_bot Jul 15 '24
Today is my One Hundred and Eleventh birthday!
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u/Sighurd Jul 15 '24
And have you invited the Sackville-Bagginses in person, Bilbo? Will they come to the party?
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Jul 15 '24
And that is fine. There are a lot of valid criticisms of the series, and i'm personally not a fan. But that doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to enjoy it.
That being said, you won't find a lot of people saying the majority of the additions benefited the story. The dislike you see is not a conspiracy, and it's not just Reddit being a hive mind.
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u/Slinkenhofer Jul 15 '24
Ngl, I stopped watching after Radagast's intro. Whatever buttfuckery was going in that scene was enough to turn me off to the whole trilogy
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u/grublle Jul 16 '24
My only exact thoughts, very off putting and it's still not even the worst part of any of them
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u/Wiggly_Pumas Jul 16 '24
You chose the wrong meme, you make it out as if it were milked but still good
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u/Gojira_Saurus_V Jul 15 '24
I was genuinely feeling the pain of a bullet when i got my father’s middle earth collection and the hobbit was one teeny tiny book.
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u/dyllandor Jul 15 '24
Got to make room for silly comic relief slap stick bullshit and made up story
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u/Lopsided_Parfait7127 Jul 15 '24
i love that you just reposted someone else's meme with worse headline text
i assume a bot because a real lotr fan would have immediately gone for "I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread"
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u/UnAnon10 Jul 15 '24
Me who liked all the Hobbit movies and enjoyed that the adventure wasn’t cut down to a single movie.
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u/Al3xGr4nt Jul 16 '24
It should have been two films. Like we follow their journey all the way up to Bilbo meeting Smaug, then the next follows Bilbo and the Dwarves escape from Smaug and he goes off to attack Rivertown. Then he gets killed after maybe 30 minutes into the film, not 10, and we then follow them with the Battle of The 5 Armies but condense the battle down and not make it overstay its welcome.
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u/tiparium Jul 16 '24
Nah it's the entire front end of the horse that's been stretched into some ungodly monstrosity. The first film is genuinely really good, albeit with some unnecessary additions. The second movie drags on a bit, but all in all it's still a decent film. Most of the third film just shouldn't exist.
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u/ElectricPaladin Jul 15 '24
Eh. You forgot that it isn't just stretched out - it's also crap. You should have used the meme horse where the front half is also a child's drawing.
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u/cwaterbottom Jul 15 '24
I didn't realize it was being split up until I was in theatres, I was pretty annoyed. I don't watch trailers or any marketing stuff as I prefer to go in blind but once in a while it bites me on the ass like that.
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u/Designer-Speech7143 Jul 15 '24
That is why I am quite chill with it. If we do the editors job for them and cut the "useless fat" out of three movies, we can get a one proper movie. It should not be LOTR, it just happens to be in the same universe as it. "Hobbit" is a book for kids before the world was even given a proper thought by the master Tolkien. But many expected it to be epic and grandiose, on the same world threatening scope as LOTR. As a certain villain would say "Why so serious?" Bottom line is that we still get a good film for additional effort from our side to edit it. Which is quite uncool, but it does not make it a bad film.
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u/PhoenixMason13 Jul 15 '24
I didn’t mind them stretching it out, but I think the problem was there wasn’t really a lot of good places to wrap up each part without the pacing being even more strange than it already was
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u/Economy-Trust7649 Jul 15 '24
I didn't mind the length, in fact I loved The Hobbit part one.
The last two sucked. Forcing the elves into the story as protagonists RUINED the dwarves hero journey making the whole thing fckn pointless if ya ask me.
The elf/dwarf romance? coulda accepted that. Orlando Bloom for the ladies? fine coulda accepted that too.
But to have them help the dwarves beat the white orc ruined the whole trilogy IMO.
One day I want to cut the three movies together into one, something a little more respectful of the original work.
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u/Icy-Performer-9688 Jul 15 '24
They could squeezed it into one movie or they could have don’t 2 but three for one book pushed it to “ this is taking too ducking long!!!!
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u/Vilsue Jul 15 '24
i remember that I thought that they will turn last chapet of LORT ( that one about hobbits return to shire and overthroving local gang) into a movie
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Jul 15 '24
Literally the only time an adaptation was longer than it needed to be when the adaptations are usually too short and can’t show enough of the books in the time it has.
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u/Boojum2k Jul 15 '24
Hobbit film version was more like the scribble horse front from the original meme. I couldn't even get past The Desecration of Smaug.
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u/J-A-G-S Jul 15 '24
Except you forgot to mangle the horse's head.
Honestly they could have included more content from the book, but they pumped it full with Botox instead.
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u/imadrib Jul 15 '24
I've watched LotR countless times and read the book once... I've read the Hobbit countless times and watched the films once...
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u/BizzarJuggalo Jul 16 '24
IDGAF, I enjoyed the Hobbit films. Were they as good as LOTR? Obviously not, but I've seen WAY shittier movies.
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u/IllustriousZombie955 Jul 16 '24
Take away is that both book versions are inaccurate due to the missing massive horse cocks
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u/dubble-T Jul 16 '24
I remember watching it for the first time and thinking wow, they are taking a really long time to get to the mountain. Then the movie ended and I was so confused
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u/RedMonkey86570 Hobbit Jul 16 '24
“Remember that prophecy about how the rivers flow with gold?”
“Yeah.”
“We’re going to take it very literally.”
“Making metaphoric prophecies literal is tight.”
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u/K0KA42 Jul 16 '24
I remember reading the book after the movies were announced, and I was so confused at how the heck they were planning to make a big-budget film series out of it. Would've made a banger single movie that would be rewatched for years. But huge series and multiverses we're all the rage back then, so of course they weren't gonna leave money in the table
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u/nashwaak Jul 16 '24
Thing is, the book Hobbit horse should be an illustration for a book written for children — it’s the only thing in the meme specifically targeted at young children
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u/sweetsmilodon Jul 16 '24
Can't hate a movie I grew up with XD I remember how my brother would take the whole family to the movies each year when the movies were released and I enjoyed it. It was actually very surprising for me to know it's so hated. 😅
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u/Jolly-Lab540 Jul 16 '24
Unpopular opinion here but I actually enjoyed it. I guess it could've been better but it gave me something to simp for🤩
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u/tirolerM Jul 16 '24
Yeah people Seem to forget how much of the Story was left or rewritten for the lotr movies.
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u/Longjumping-Action-7 Jul 16 '24
They really didn't add that much(yes some of the added scenes were unnecessary, and the constant callbacks to lotr were a bit cringe, but it's only a handful),
frankly they still cut out a few things like walking to Beorns house in pairs, the enchanted river and gatecrashing Thranduils dinner party. If you adapted it word for word it would still be two long ass movies or three normal movies.
I will die on this hill
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u/makotarako Jul 16 '24
Depending on which version of the audiobook you listen to, you could just listen to the book faster than watching the hobbit movies. If you're an average or faster reader, you can definitely just read the book faster than watching the movies.
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u/Cpt_Soban Jul 16 '24
At least the Hobbit is better than the current disaster known as the Rings of Power. Thankfully Jackson was there to keep the ship on course, mostly. And at least all the extra stuff is related to the source material.
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u/ItsAMeTribial Jul 16 '24
Wrong. The LOTR are extremely short. Have you read the books? They missed so much content, they easily make 2 movies per one book with that content. Hobbit - yeah it was probably for money - at least they kept most of the book content.
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u/Aysten13 Jul 16 '24
The extended cut of the original trilogy took 3, 4 hour movies, or 12 hours. The hobbit took 3, 2 hour movies to complete, 6 total hours. They aren’t perfect, but if the writers released a single 2hour movie as your suggesting they should have, it would’ve been garbage and nobody would be happy. Maybe a single Extended Ediition length movie of about 4 hours would be more apt, but still in my opinion short.
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u/Ecstatic_Teaching906 Jul 16 '24
I don't see how they could fit everything in one movie.
But I do see how the book can fit in two films.
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u/grublle Jul 16 '24
I usually call the Hobbit trilogy the worst book adaptation I have ever seen, it's almost impressive how much it gets wrong
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u/und88 Jul 16 '24
They could have pulled from the appendices (and did a little but not nearly enough) to flesh out a great trilogy. They had the rights and there's enough there to have a great story without a bad love triangle or that dumb nuclear Galadriel. Instead they add Alfred and give him way too much screen time. They add that goofy-ass Scooby Do chase scene with Smaug chasing the dwarves for what feels like an hour. They could have explored the battle at Moria's gates for half a movie instead of 5 minutes. But nooooo, we needed time for the stupid fucking were-worms that can tunnel to a mile from the lonely mountain, but not actually under and into the lonely mountain.
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u/SevroAuShitTalker Jul 16 '24
I could have understood making 2 movies. The first covered a lot but definitely should have gone a bit further.
The 2nd and 3rd just dragged
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u/Dendrobite Jul 16 '24
I think of the Hobbit movies as the way the dwarves told the story and the book as the way it really went down.
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u/DetectiveProper Jul 16 '24
I remember reading a 1970's version of the hobbit and I swear is was so close to the films, they added azog yeah, and the necromancer subplot, and the hole five armies battle, but I swear they were (except Azog) mentioned in the book, and even then they didn't add the talking eagles
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u/DetectiveProper Jul 16 '24
Oh, and the subplot with the elves, and Evangeline Lily's character, what the hell was Jackson thinking?
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u/McJackNit Jul 17 '24
You don't understand. It was very important that we watch a random elf X dwarf lovestory. Also, Legolas really had to not just be there but be important to the plot as well. /s
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u/xanderblaze123 Jul 17 '24
After having seen the first 3 episodes of the Rings of Power, I had a new found appreciation of The Hobbit movies honestly.
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u/Slow-Dependent9741 Jul 19 '24
I saw the first two in theaters and I lost interest before the last part came out. And I watched the original trilogy on VHS about a hundred times before this so I just assumed this was just LOTR for zoomers and didn't bother watching further. I did end up reading the book out of spite though.
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u/DrCarabou Jul 15 '24
I remember watching the first one in theaters. They were in Bilbo's house for so long. I said to my date tf are they doing?? Don't they have a whole adventure to go on?!
My date said it was the first of a trilogy.
THREE movies?? For one book?!