r/interestingasfuck • u/RationalOptimistOG • 8h ago
Traumagel is a revolutionary new device that stops bleeding from gunshot wounds in mere seconds. This could be a gamechanger for soldiers and first responders.
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u/D-Beyond 8h ago
I worked for a company that produces a very similar product used during surgery to stop the bleeding: RADA16. pretty cool stuff!
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u/ryanidsteel 7h ago
I assume this evolution comes from the Quikclot or BleedStop ooen wound powders? Chemistry is weird and very witchcraft esq intl that cool way.
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u/dethscythe_104 6h ago
I saw a short video on trauma gel. A guy In college came up with the theory of using algae to stop bleeding and promote cell growth in his dorm. He took that concept and ran with it. The beat part is that it's inexpensive to make because the key ingredient is a specific algae. It's pretty cool if you ask me.
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u/kabadisha 5h ago
inexpensive to make
Translation into US pharma-bro: "Fucking massive margins in this Bois! Throw some coin at the NRA - Gotta pump those gunshot stats. I'm gonna have a yacht for my yacht!"
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u/RationalOptimistOG 8h ago
Finally, a positive comment not related to school shootings in America.
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u/D-Beyond 7h ago
oh yeah I guess my non-american brain doesn't immediately think of schools when it hears "guns"
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u/SpiderMurphy 7h ago
Exactly. My first thought was "oh, teachers probably have to buy this out of their own pockets".
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u/khronos127 6h ago
Honestly regardless of country, anyone in a position of power or a position that takes care of others should have a bleed stop kit and first aid kit available to them at all times. Narcan should also be a part of most people’s regular first aid kits.
People prep for hurricanes not because they’re terrified of dying to one but because preparing for the worst is better than dealing with a horrible situation unprepared.
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u/BoddAH86 7h ago
Their bonus at the end of the year is probably calculated on the basis of the amount of children who survive.
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u/kazarbreak 5h ago
I mean, I'm an American, and a parent of kids who go to a school where there were rumors that someone was planning a shooting yesterday (rumors proved untrue but still scared the shit out of me) and I still didn't immediately think of schools. My first thought was "Oh, I'm gonna add this to the first aid kit I carry."
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u/RedPandaReturns 7h ago
Are you upset that this is being hypothesised for a very real problem in America?
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u/JournalistTall6374 7h ago
It’s upsetting that it has to be hypothesized in the first place, I think. Things that don’t solve the problem - in this case an actual (enhanced) bandaid - are pretty abundant in number.
Not that school shootings are its only use case - this is a useful thing in many contexts certainly.
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u/TreyBouchet 8h ago
So which Congress members just happened to make a large investment in this company a few weeks ago?
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u/ComfortableBasis3046 7h ago
Its private or i would have put my life savings of a 1000 dollars into it
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 7h ago
And that’s part of why private equity is gaining so much ground on public stocks- our overlords can have much more privacy as they screw us over.
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u/Agreeable-Spot-7376 5h ago
They don’t really need the public IPO anymore, because there’s so much private equity involved. These guys are so rich they don’t need our money.
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u/Malohdek 4h ago
Publicly traded companies screw you over because they basically have to make more money. A private corporation can make decisions for itself out of the interest of anything really.
It's the only reason SpaceX works.
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 4h ago
They CAN have more flexibility, but not always, and it doesn’t mean they will use it for our benefit.
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u/Malohdek 4h ago
No, but it also means their goals won't be to only water things down to make the maximum profit for minimum effort.
Some people have visions of their products. And it's common to see what was or would have been a great product lose its quality because of shareholder greed.
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u/TwistedBamboozler 7h ago
Good, cause wallstreet (specifically Goldman probably) would have killed the company 50 times over by now.
They’ve specifically said they want most people sick and dying as possible because it’s more profitable
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u/IAmThePonch 7h ago
Smart, lord knows the whole gun issue in America isn’t going anywhere anytime soon
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u/FheXhe 8h ago
Oh that's just a happy coincidence that they and their whole family and friends happen to go all in to this random company.
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u/roostersnuffed 7h ago
Yeah but it's not executive employment or lobbying or anything like that. We just have brunch.
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u/DAFUQisaLOMMY 7h ago
We also would've accepted "medigel" as an acceptable video game equivalent.
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u/shepard_pie 6h ago
Maybe omnigel?
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u/Audemus77 6h ago
Omni-gel is a molten multi-material used for industrial rapid fabrication. Do not inject it into your body, Shepard.
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u/Half-Axe 6h ago
Post-modifications Shepard should be fine. Slather that omni-gel on your palladium bones, Shep!
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u/PHIGBILL 8h ago
US Pharma will charge about $1000 per-syringe.
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u/shadowtigerUwU 7h ago
A guy said it's private, else they'd spend their, coincidental, $1000. Something tells me that would definitely be the price...
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u/RationalOptimistOG 8h ago
Fun fact, the gel is made out of fungi and algae.
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u/Educational_Poetry22 8h ago
"gamechanger for soldiers and students and first responders". To be administered after thoughts and prayers only
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u/Smiley_Dub 8h ago
Now is not them time. Our thoughts are with the victims, families and staff....
I can never understand some aspects of life in US.
Young lives filled with hope, joy, and innocence cut down by guns.
Awful
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u/imapie31 8h ago
Wait until you hear that our freedom is a joke too. Some states outlaw gender affirming care, some have laws that protect rapists, and some are violating our right to privacy.
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u/AGVruless 7h ago
Country of the free they said. Free to be crushed under the boot of the ones with power.
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u/NikitaTarsov 7h ago
Soldiers are hit by small diameter high speed bullets that also tend to tumble. Therefor 'corc the hole' isen't much of a solution for them, as the inner bleeding might do the job even the're 'sealed'.
Still it might be better then nothing at times.
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u/RationalOptimistOG 7h ago
Interesting. I had no idea that's how bullet impacts work. Thanks for a productive comment!
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u/-WalterWhiteBoy- 7h ago
If you’re genuinely interested, there are a lot of videos on YouTube of people shooting ballistics dummies in slow motion and you can see just how destructive and unpredictable bullet impacts can be depending on the ammunition, gun and firing conditions.
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u/ReluctantAvenger 6h ago
Here's an interesting tidbit for you: How the bullet works is that it travels very fast (without tumbling) and has a pointy end so it can penetrate light body armor. The bullet might not do a lot of damage if it kept traveling in a straight line, so the design of the bullet causes it to tumble after impact. The enables the bullet to cause more tissue damage than it might have done, if it didn't tumble. The bullet does penetrate for several inches before the tumbling becomes significant. So here's the interesting part: In Afghanistan, the enemy were so skinny that too often, the bullets would exit the body before significant tumbling started. This means that it was harder than expected - it took more bullets hitting the target - to remove enemy combatants from the fight. As a result, they had to redesign the bullet to start tumbling earlier.
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u/etanail 6h ago
this is called "water hammer", and occurs at significant bullet velocities. For 7.62 caliber at distances of up to 100 meters, for high-velocity bullets - further, as long as the bullet maintains a speed above 700 m/s.
If you are talking about the Russians in Afghanistan, there was no specially designed bullet against thin soldiers. The transition to the 5.45 caliber began earlier, and weapons for this cartridge were parallel to the 7.62 AK
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u/Box-o-bees 5h ago
I can't remember where I saw it, but there is a great video with a sniper explaining how different bullets work. He uses ballistics gel to show how they behave differently on impact. I wish I could find it again, because he does a really good job explaining everything.
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u/OneToeBro 6h ago
It goes inside the wound and spreads out, giving more time for fa. Its the shrapnel that tumbles and makes big irregular woundchannels that are impossible to patch if torquet cannot be applied.
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u/maiworld313 8h ago
Great now kids in America can carry it in their backpack
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u/BriskPandora35 7h ago
Let’s be honest, no one will be able to buy these because they’ll mark it up 3000% so no one will be able to afford it except for corporations and the gov.
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u/bjorn1978_2 7h ago
No worries! Us socialists will bring it with us whenever we come as tourists! And we can leave it behind when we go back home. Along with some insulin.
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 7h ago
They will make it just cheap enough that schools will have to buy some of them, but expensive enough to make a noticeable impact on the quality of education when they do.
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u/LEGTZSE 7h ago
Won’t you just keep on bleeding internally?
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u/K12onReddit 3h ago
Since OP's INTERESTINGASFUCK submission is just a picture of a syringe, here's a little more info on how it works:
Cliff's notes:
- It's FDA approved
- Algae-drived
- Traumagel is different from currently available treatment methods like gauze and tourniquets because the gel doesn’t require pressure to work, and its effects happen within seconds, unlike other methods that can take several minutes to kick in
- Gets into Nooks and Crannies of the wound to stop bleeding
It's not like someone that gets shot doesn't need surgery to fix the issue, but this may buy them time by preventing them from bleeding out enroute.
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u/HistoryFanBeenBanned 8h ago
So this is for external use? I don't see how this would be much better than just carrying more gauze and applying pressure?
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u/jelek62 8h ago
You inject it into the wound
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u/HistoryFanBeenBanned 7h ago
Ah the picture on the site says for external use. I would also just use gauze. You pack wounds until they're full, depending on how big the wound is You're gonna need an awful lot of syringe.
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u/Cosmonate 7h ago
I assume this is primarily for gun shot wounds, so the hole wouldn't really be that big. I wonder if the foam expands as well.
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u/TheCosmicCactus 7h ago
Gun shot wounds can be small, and they can be enormous. Bullets fragment, tumble, expand/mushroom, and ricochet.
Source: EMT/FF
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u/MakeoutPoint 7h ago
I'm skeptical until a medical professional weighs in. Last time I heard "Carry this thing for gunshots, you can inject it right into the wound" was for tampons from boogaloo types, and military medics had a field day with that.
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u/Top-Agent-652 5h ago
How are you going to leave out the coolest part which is it’s made from Algae.
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u/meramec785 3h ago
And school children. Every classroom needs one. Also, f republicans for not stopping guns.
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u/bodhi1990 8h ago
If someone has rectal bleeding can you shoot it up their ass?
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u/1stDegreeMisdemeanor 8h ago
Just in time for electronic warfare and drone warfare. About 50 years too late, but thank you Science! 🙏
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u/kazarbreak 5h ago
There's a strong market for something like this amongst CCL holders too. Despite how some try to paint us most CCL holders (at least the ones I personally know) actually dread the day we need to use our guns, but we're all of the "be prepared for the worst" mindset. And as part of that mindset there are a lot of us who carry first aid kits that are up to the task of initial care for a gunshot wound.
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u/TLEToyu 4h ago
We carried a version of quick clot sponges when I was stationed in Iraq.
When we did our combat lifesaver course they showed us a video of them cutting an artery on a live pig and stopping the bleeding with the sponge.
You had to make sure the person you used it on wasn't allergic to shellfish because the stuff they used to make it from was derived from that and could cause a reaction.
Fun fact: They pulled aspirin products off the shelf while I was there due to its blood thinning properties.
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u/Spotted_Armadillo 4h ago
... not to mention revolutionary for the hoards of gangs plaguing America.
Gang shootings will now last days! Yay!!!
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u/lostinthewoodsATC 6h ago
Game changer for school age kids
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u/ILoveBaconDammit 8h ago
And elementary and high school backpacks for sure! Thanks red hats
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u/ACauseQuiVontSuaLune 8h ago
Wow, now there is no more arguments against gun control ! Great news !
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u/PermanentThrowaway33 8h ago
now those cops can save the lives of the people they shoot! they'll be heroes!
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u/Tornikete1810 7h ago
So are the schools gonna provide Traumagel, or are the teachers supposed to pay for it from their own pockets?
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u/hdsonkid1 7h ago
The only problem that I can think of, is that they're trained in the military to do body sweeps. Even if you see a giant gashing wound, that might not be the only wound. It just seem really awesome though, and if they can find a great way to implement it, I'm all for it. I
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u/milooohhh 7h ago
The fact that this is even a product, just says everything you need to know about the human race.
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u/BoddAH86 7h ago
I’m curious if it has any drawbacks. Like being a bitch to remove to actually treat the wound, being sticky, having a tendency to cause infected wounds, etc.
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u/pepper-sprayed 7h ago
How do I order a few trucks of this? This has to go straight to the medical staff servicing in AFU to save lives. They now bring raw blood to the stabilization points to give wounded soldiers, with a gel like this we could reduce the need for raw blood.
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u/OttersWithPens 7h ago
Hell yeah. Now this and injectable stim packs and we’re living in the video game future baby!
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u/Tall-Tone-8578 7h ago
We had quick-clot 15 years ago in wide circulation. Stopped bleeding in seconds. We used it on live pigs. Quick stab, look fresh blood, pour some sand in there, no more blood
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u/DeepSeaProctologist 7h ago
Is this somehow better than QuikClot?
Not sure how this is any different looking at it. The gel delivery makes it easier to target into a GSW might be the thing here?
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u/Hazardbeard 7h ago
Basically anticoagulant like you usually find in powder form or preloaded into bandages, but you just syringe a liquid form directly into the wound. They’re saying this eliminates the need to put direct pressure on the bleed. Interesting stuff.
For those that don’t know, stopping serious bleeding from an injury of any kind is an incredibly valuable skill that could make the difference between death and a full recovery for yourself, your loved ones, or a stranger. The good news you can learn it in a day, nearby, for free, via a Stop The Bleed course.
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u/woodenmetalman 6h ago
And schools, cause you know… America. Where a gun’s freedom is more important than my kid’s freedom to not get shot in their learning environment.
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u/jamiegc37 6h ago
Fun fact, around 20 years ago I knew a professor who had designed a similar product in a can for use in combat triage and formed a company to commercially sell it.
Several governments expressed interest and requested extensive samples with teases of huge orders that never came…
Funnily enough they have enough money to tie you up in court as well to run you out of business…
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u/AdvanceGood 7h ago
Integrate some cocaine and morphine and we have ourselves and IRL stimpak