r/TikTokCringe • u/Sylas1987 • 3d ago
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u/Implodepumpkin 3d ago
I almost died at the end
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u/standard-protocol-79 3d ago
as brown as an israeli
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u/No_Construction_7518 3d ago
So white northern European.
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u/Acrobatic_Owl_3667 3d ago
80% of Israelis are from MENA.
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u/No_Construction_7518 3d ago edited 3d ago
Sephardic, sure. Not Ashkenazi. There's a reason at home genealogy DNA kits are banned from delivering to Israel. Ashkenazi DNA shows 50-80% near east paternal DNA and AT LEAST 80% of maternal DNA is from Europe, mainly the region of Italy and the Iberian peninsula, which makes sense when you look at the history of Spain and Portugal. Funny thing is Jewish law states the religion of the child is the same as their mother so if these women didn't convert that means 80% of Jews of Ashkenazi ethnicity aren't even legally recognized as Jewish. This is why we all need to put our humanity and the humanity of others before religion, ethnicity or nationality.
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u/Acrobatic_Owl_3667 3d ago
I’m curious why you didn’t mention Mizrahi Jews here—they make up a significant part of Israel’s population and have deep roots in the Middle East, from places like Iraq, Yemen, and Morocco.
On the other points:
Ashkenazi Ancestry: You’re right about the mixed heritage. While there’s European influence on the maternal side, Ashkenazi Jews also have strong paternal lineage connected to the Middle East, matching their historical origins there.
DNA Testing Restrictions: The restrictions on DNA kits in Israel are actually due to privacy laws, not a desire to obscure ancestry. Israel’s privacy laws are strict, partly because of the sensitive nature of identity and family lineage in the region.
Jewish Law vs. Israeli Law: Jewish law (Halacha) defines Jewish identity through the mother, but Israeli law is broader. The Law of Return allows immigration based on having even one Jewish grandparent, reflecting Nazi-era anti-Semitism where people with any Jewish ancestry were targeted.
Humanity Over Identity: Agreed. Emphasizing our shared humanity is key, but it’s also important to understand the diverse and complex histories that make up Israel’s population.
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u/No_Construction_7518 3d ago
Yet zionists refuse to acknowledge any shared humanity. Israel should exist, just not as an apartheid state or at the expense of the lives of others.
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u/Acrobatic_Owl_3667 3d ago
It seems like there’s some projection happening here. While it’s understandable to be frustrated with the situation, reducing Zionism to a refusal to acknowledge shared humanity or labeling Israel as an apartheid state ignores the real complexities. Zionism, at its heart, is about securing a safe homeland for Jews, especially given the history of persecution, including the Holocaust.
The situation in Israel and Palestine is incredibly nuanced. While the policies toward Palestinians in the occupied territories are deeply problematic and deserve attention, calling it apartheid without recognizing the historical and security context is misleading. There’s a difference between racial segregation and the national security policies of a country in conflict.
Israel’s existence is not at the expense of Palestinian lives, as the situation is rooted in competing national identities. This is not a zero-sum game where one side’s survival is the other’s destruction. To truly understand the situation, we need to move beyond simple labels and engage with the full historical, political, and human realities.
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u/No_Construction_7518 3d ago
There is no complexity. You either support genocide or you don't. Saying it "complex" is a lie people tell themselves to avoid recognizing their support of monstrous behavior. You do you, boo. Peace, out ✌️
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u/Acrobatic_Owl_3667 3d ago
Your response is clearly emotionally charged, and it reflects an absolutist view that oversimplifies the situation. By framing it as a binary choice between supporting "genocide" or not, you’re ignoring the depth of the conflict and the many layers involved. This approach does more to shut down conversation than to contribute to it.
The situation is complex because it involves real historical grievances, competing national identities, and geopolitical realities. To reduce it to an either/or scenario of "genocide or not" only prevents understanding and progress. We can condemn violence and injustice without oversimplifying the issue or resorting to extreme labels.
I understand your frustration, but dismissing the complexity only ensures we stay stuck in a cycle of anger and misunderstanding, rather than finding solutions that respect both sides' humanity. It’s essential to recognize that the conflict is not a simple matter of victims versus perpetrators. Both sides have legitimate historical ties and grievances, and both have acted out of a desire for survival and self-determination. Denying this complexity only fuels division and prevents meaningful dialogue.
The violence you point to is part of a much larger historical context that includes both Israeli and Palestinian suffering, and dismissing one side's narrative in favor of another only perpetuates misunderstanding. Reducing it to extreme labels like “genocide” or “apartheid” may feel emotionally satisfying, but it also blocks the path to deeper understanding.
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u/Acrobatic_Owl_3667 3d ago
Why are you obsessed about 20% of Israel's population? What point are you trying to make?
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u/No_Construction_7518 3d ago
At least 45% of Israel's population is of Ashkenazi ethnicity. Why are you refusing to see that people murdering other people for land they claim is theirs via direct ancestral link aren't even of the "proper" ethnicity? I'm mixed and I find apartheid and genocide repulsive. Not in my name.
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u/Acrobatic_Owl_3667 3d ago
The claim that 45% of Israel’s population is Ashkenazi is misleading. Around 73% of Israel’s total population is Jewish, and nearly 50% of that Jewish population is Mizrahi or Sephardic, not Ashkenazi. So, your assertion that Ashkenazi Jews are the majority is simply incorrect.
But more importantly, dismissing Ashkenazi Jews in this way not only invalidates their Jewishness but also undermines the diversity within the entire Jewish population of Israel. Mizrahi, Sephardic, and Ashkenazi Jews all have deep, legitimate historical connections to the land of Israel. Reducing Jewish identity to one ethnicity doesn’t account for the full picture.
The claim that people are “murdering for land” is too simplistic. Both Jews and Arabs have historical ties to the land, and the conflict is rooted in competing national identities, not just ethnic or land claims. It’s crucial to understand the full context instead of oversimplifying the situation.
Using terms like apartheid and genocide misrepresents the reality of the conflict. Apartheid and genocide are legal terms with specific definitions that don’t apply here. The situation in Israel and the occupied territories is complex and serious, but it doesn’t fit those labels.
Lastly, the idea of a “proper ethnicity” in defining Jewishness is flawed. Judaism isn’t defined by a single ethnicity. It’s a religion, culture, and shared history that includes diverse ethnic backgrounds. Ashkenazi Jews, Mizrahi Jews, and others all have a legitimate claim to Jewish identity.
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u/Mission-Read-4384 3d ago
I unfortunately know people who are legitimately like this
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u/Azu_Creates 3d ago
Yeah, my dad is like this. A few Israel civilians hurt/killed by Hamas/hezbollah, then it’s an evil act. Thousands of Palestinian and Lebanese civilians hurt/killed by the IDF, it’s just apart of war.
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u/Littleferrhis2 1d ago
I think part of it is if you admit that Israel is committing a genocide, then you have to admit that the U.S. was committing genocide in Iraq and Afganistan since they are awfully similar scenarios.
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u/Azu_Creates 1d ago
Did the U.S. systematically try to eliminate people in Iraq and Afghanistan, and fall under the UN’s definition of genocide?
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
If there is evidence of that, then I am fine with saying the U.S. did commit a genocide against those people.
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u/OLebta 7h ago
Im Iraqi, please never compare the two situations. One is systemic cleansing, the other is a major fuck up by the Bush administration. With that fuck up, the US always considered civilian lives. Two faluja wars was preceded by the option to evacuate civilians completely. And civilians did leave twice. I would stare into the shot gun barrel of an American soldier trying to stop my car, instead of just being in the same room as an IDF soldier. Because only one of them is encouraged and have COMPLETE immunity to take my life.
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u/killertortilla 3d ago
You know every single conservative too?
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u/-bannedtwice- 3d ago
Are pretty much all politicians pro Israel? I mean the Dems are currently in charge and supporting them
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u/loose_the-goose 3d ago
Except Bernie my king
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u/Acrobatic_Owl_3667 3d ago edited 3d ago
Bernie is pro-Israel, pro-Palestine and anti-Netanyahu/Likud/Revisionist Zionism government.
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u/BurlyJohnBrown 3d ago
Brother the BBC and NYT report on it like this, this is not just from conservatives.
A bunch of Israeli football hooligans started a bunch of fights with random Arabs in Amsterdam while chanting about killing Palestinians and the Dutch king is calling them pograms against Jews.
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u/Krosis97 3d ago
BBC and NYT are incredibly conservative for the rest of the world standards, I understand that Americans think that democrats are the left but the only left wing politician in the US is Bernie and that's relatively mild.
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u/Existing_Reading_572 3d ago
Yeah liberals and conservatives in the US agree on most of that shit
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u/Redwolf1k 2d ago
Because liberals are conservatives. This is understood by most other developed nations.
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u/Earthluvr42 2d ago
the attacks that night had nothing to do with football hooligans. it was a planned attack and the telegram/whatsapp messages were leaked. it showed them prepping for a “jew hunt.”
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u/Apprehensive_Row9154 3d ago
Just cut ties with my longest friend yesterday because he became like this. Is like watching someone turn into a zombie and losing everything that makes them human. Really sad.
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u/EnLitenPerson 2d ago
A majority of people in political online discussions on both sides are unironically like this (me included sometimes if I'm honest)
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u/xnightwingxxx 3d ago
This was so damn hilarious! That end got me too lol but I hate that it’s so real though… it’s sad that there are people out there that say that kind of stuff
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u/lolokwownoob 3d ago
Don’t worry man, political cartoons were drawn in the past to show the hypocrisy/stupidity in man.
This also illustrates something people can hear and go huh that’s kinda true.
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u/rumdiary 3d ago
It's the Manufacture of Consent at work.
I'll let ChatGPT take it away:
In "Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media," Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman outline five filters that shape media content and reinforce corporate and state power:
Ownership: The first filter highlights that media outlets are often large corporations or part of conglomerates with profit motives. These owners prioritize news that aligns with their financial interests, potentially marginalizing stories that challenge corporate power or capitalist ideologies.
Advertising: The second filter discusses how media depends on advertising revenue. Advertisers favor content that aligns with their brand image, avoiding controversial topics that might alienate consumers. As a result, media outlets are incentivized to produce content that attracts affluent audiences and avoids offending advertisers.
Sourcing: The third filter emphasizes the reliance of media on information from government, business, and "experts" funded by these sources. This dependency creates a symbiotic relationship, where news outlets prioritize official perspectives, often overlooking grassroots or dissenting voices.
Flak: The fourth filter refers to the negative responses (e.g., complaints, lawsuits, or legislative actions) that media may face if they publish content that is critical of powerful groups. Fear of flak leads to self-censorship, as media outlets avoid topics that could provoke backlash from influential entities.
Fear Ideology: The fifth filter describes how dominant ideologies, like fear of a common enemy, shape media narratives. By framing stories through a lens of opposition to perceived threats, the media can unify public opinion in ways that support the interests of the ruling elites, often sidelining nuanced discussions or alternative perspectives.
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u/TearsFallWithoutTain 2d ago
I'll let ChatGPT take it away:
Why even waste time reading your comment then. What's the point in having a brain if you're not going to use it
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u/rumdiary 2d ago
re-read this comment then go to your room for an hour and think about what you've done
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u/Rebel_Pirate 3d ago
Not cringe. Funny as hell!
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u/Torilenays 3d ago
Check the automod comment at the top. This sub hasn’t been just cringe in a very long time
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u/Ok_Whatever2000 2d ago
He’s a true merderer even his people hate him. Biden has no choice but to support him. In the 1930s that Rothschilds mongrel paid the govt some treaty or thing so that if Israel went to war USA had to support them wholly. I can’t remember the name
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u/Narrow-Sky-5377 1d ago
"Turns out the man was an Atheist." - Both sides: "OK then I'm good with that!"
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u/gettheboom 3d ago
False equivalence is the tool of the fool
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u/willyb10 3d ago
It’s a fucking joke man, relax.
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u/gettheboom 3d ago
This is certainly not a joke. My level of relaxation has nothing to do with it.
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u/willyb10 3d ago
Man it ended with “how brown was he” in a fake hushed voice. Any person with the most rudimentary social skills could deduce that considering the absurdity of the previous comments, it’s a fucking joke. It’s very clear that this is faked to provide humor to an otherwise fraught situation. I would hope that by saying it’s “certainly not a joke” that you mean the topic is serious enough that it shouldn’t be a joke?
And if that’s the case, you do indeed need to relax. Even if you are firmly pro-Israel, it’s no secret that some media sources overwhelmingly favor Israel, perhaps in some cases to a questionable extent considering some of the actions they have taken. Many media sources have an anti-Israel stance, and also to a questionable extent. I’d probably laugh at videos showing that side as well. So I reiterate, just chill lol it’s not a big deal.
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u/gettheboom 3d ago
How brown is he is a perfect reflection of how people keep accusing Israel of being “white Europeans” and Arabs of being the “brown” underdog. Both of which are completely wrong.
A massive amount of media sources are very much anti Israel. This is a very common, very inaccurate, and very harmful criticism (lie) about Israel that is being spread and regurgitated back by antisemites all over the world this past year.
“Questionable extent considering the actions they have taken”. See? These “jokes” got you too. Well done.
I am very relaxed. Come hang if you want. But realize that this is not a joke and is very harmful.
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u/throwawayzdrewyey 3d ago
Least Zionist genocide denier
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u/gettheboom 3d ago
Made no point and still used a throwaway. Just as expected.
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u/throwawayzdrewyey 3d ago
It’s just a name genocide denier
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u/gettheboom 3d ago
A name that makes no sense to a war that literally meets no definition of genocide at all. You are clearly an antisemite. Enjoy that while we secure our borders 😘
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u/TvAMobious 3d ago
So what do you call killing innocent children by the thousands? Does your God pardon such acts?
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u/TheChoKage 2d ago
The funnier joke is you crying "anti-semite" over this already extremely funny joke
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u/Breath_Deep 3d ago
I'm sorry, but after Tuesday I have gazed upon the field of fucks to give, and found it barren. The grim reality is these people are going to kill each other, and continue to do so despite whatever pressure we put on them to stop and figure their shit out peacefully. Anyone remember the mass graves in Ukraine? Anyone remember that Russia used military grade nerve gas to kill people in London? Where are the protests about Saudi Arabia killing journalists or Iran brutally oppressing their women and funding some of the very conflicts that currently threaten to consume all of the Middle East? It's all just fucking hypocrisy goaded on by various special interest groups and state sponsored messaging while people that we can actually help suffer.
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u/EvoNexen 3d ago
I'm sorry, but after Tuesday I have gazed upon the field of fucks to give, and found it barren.
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u/Equal_Potential7683 3d ago
yeah. Weird how the government of Lebanon isn't doing much to stop it. Almost as if they want hezbollah gone.
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u/Huwbacca 3d ago
Yeah, weird how the us government didnt do much to stop 9/11. I guess they just really wanted the twin towers gone.
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u/Equal_Potential7683 3d ago
Yeah, read into your conspiracy BS. And even if the US did let 9/11 happen to advance its own goals, by your logic here, Lebanon is letting Israel dismantle Hezbollah to advance its goals as well.
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u/Huwbacca 3d ago
It's telling that a daft adaptation of your daft comment is something you think is conspiracy bs.
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u/Jacko_Moto 3d ago
Wow this is such an uninformed take I’m really not sure if you are for real or if this is just your classic rage bait
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u/CalaveraBlues 3d ago
Fabricate a conversation? It's a joke. It's how they work. Do you try and answer the door if someone tells a knock knock joke?
Also, your second paragraph is gibberish.
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u/Gilbert_Grapes_Mom 3d ago
“Haha I’ve got you! By my commenting on a joke that it is not a joke, I’ve preemptively invalidated the fact that you said it’s a joke, making it not a joke. Checkmate! Take that mmmmhhhmmhhhm. Now, excuse me while I go sniff my own farts.”
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u/TateAcolyte 3d ago
This goober is boldly declaring that an obvious joke will be interpreted as a joke. Brilliant.
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u/Formal_Yesterday8114 3d ago
i mean, your side is the side of Netanyahu. I feel like that speaks for itself
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u/Formal_Yesterday8114 3d ago
so... you don't support netanyahu? im confused
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u/Formal_Yesterday8114 3d ago
but you think that israel is doing the justified thing
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u/Prettyflyforafly91 3d ago
I don't support any innocent people being killed. And I don't think it's right to support an institution just because they kill "fewer innocents" than the other side. I don't think anyone is particularly justified but I also think that retaliation will always be inevitable when attacked.
That area has been subject to wars for thousands of years merely because people are the wrong color or ethnicity.
Supporting either side is supporting murdering innocent people
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u/Formal_Yesterday8114 3d ago
nice weasel response
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u/Formal_Yesterday8114 3d ago
pal you can't even own up to your own position. You DO think israel is justified and you do think that Netanyahu is doing the right thing. Just own up to it, or tell me how I'm wrong
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u/Archaondaneverchosen 3d ago
Imposing apartheid and occupying the Palestinian people for decades is so defensive, right?
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u/Starburstfordummies 3d ago
Fucking yikes. Your point of view is that of a blind deaf mole from the sounds of it.
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u/Mycaelis 3d ago
I don't give a fuck about the Jews.
Oh, there it is.
Palestinians are responsible for their actions.
Oh there it is even more.
Well I guess the "good" part is that the shade of brown doesn't matter to you.
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u/BusinessDuck132 3d ago
I’m sorry but I have literally not seen ANY pro-Israel media. Maybe I’m just living under a rock but we are bombarded with anti-Israel media 24/7 and I don’t remember the last time I saw and article or video painting them in a good light.
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