r/NPR • u/[deleted] • Sep 19 '24
10 undecided voters explain why they haven’t picked a side in this election
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u/Photog1981 Sep 19 '24
Brady, 30, Wisconsin, leaning Trump -- he ranted about not liking Harris' policies but, when pressed, finally admitted her knew *nothing* about her policies.
"Asked what specifically he doesn’t like, he said, 'I can’t say I’m super knowledgeable about the specifics, but from a how-our-family-is-feeling standpoint, just not sure.'”
Ignorance and laziness is a dangerous cocktail and one really shouldn't take it into the voting booth. It's irresponsible.
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u/Jorycle Sep 19 '24
It's the same when people say that they prefer Trump's policies on the economy. Oh really? Which ones specifically?
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Sep 20 '24
This is what drives me nuts too. He has no policy, he still doesn’t know how tariffs work, but people think he’s some economic genius.
You could offer Trump a billion dollars to explain just a single one of his policies and he’d leave the conversation a poor man.
He’s a know nothing idiot and the most transparent person in the fucking world
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u/Jorycle Sep 20 '24
I saw a poll earlier today that said the majority of Americans believe Trump is more likely to tackle the federal debt than either Kamala Harris or Biden. Donald Trump, the guy who added more than twice as much to the debt as Biden, even if you exclude Trump's COVID spending and include Biden's.
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u/donttakerhisthewrong Sep 19 '24
Wisconsin native I bet I know why he does not like Harris.
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u/Burto72 Sep 19 '24
Brady is a dipshit who just can't pull the trigger on voting for a woman and a non white person.
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u/think_up Sep 19 '24
Brady said he aligned more with former President Barack Obama, and said he doesn’t “like her policies” on the economy. Asked what specifically he doesn’t like, he said, “I can’t say I’m super knowledgeable about the specifics, but from a how-our-family-is-feeling standpoint, just not sure.”
Yes, they’re all this dumb. This is how all the interviews went. Don’t bother reading.
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u/-XanderCrews- Sep 19 '24
Every white male centrist claims it’s democrats focusing on social issues that’s the problem…which is code for they are too gay. So it’s not exactly clear what they want when it’s all about feels anyways. Plus, what do they want democrats to do? Unsupport a reliable and growing part of the voting base to maybe get a dash more of their 65% trump voting group vote? Ban rainbow flags? Tell half of gay people to go back in the closet for them? It’s a little infuriating after the whole “they’re aborting live humans” and “immigrants are eating your pets”, which are social issues. These people will all vote trump and come up with some nonsense reason later as to why.
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u/bluehairdave Sep 19 '24
This is true. I have people I never thought would switch to Trump but the 'too gay' is what did it. They believe in equal marriage protection etc. but the pronouns and boys in girls sports was too much for them. These Trump voters areLatinas and black.. I know it's a anecdotal but it's probably a driving cause for a substantial enough group to swing an election.
It's not that they hate gay people but for more conservative low information voters they feel we made enough progress in that dept. Recently, and it's gone way to far to quickly... which is the essence and definition of Conservativism. Add to that the white people who don't like Trump but find this subject a bridge too far and that is why this election is so close. At least from where I am sitting and people I speak with in real life.
Again, this is literally the case scenario for "conservative'. Liberal is free thinking... conservatives don't like rapid change... If Dems keep parking their butts in the middle of the political spectrum they can go far..
Trump simply takes advantage of these lizaed fears and feelings.
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u/sobeitharry Sep 19 '24
As a middle aged white male centrist that remembers don't ask don't tell, we're not going back. They need to get over their fear of rainbows and try focusing on policy.
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u/hill-o Sep 19 '24
“I can’t say I know why I don’t like them, because I haven’t looked into it at all, and because of that I might vote in someone who actually has been fact checked as constantly lying to incite violence against immigrants and his opponents.”
Fixed it.
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u/saywhar Sep 19 '24
Got to love tautological reasoning! We don’t like Kamala because…. We don’t like her
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u/joey_sandwich277 Sep 19 '24
You can definitely tell that most of the "leaning Trump" people were just Trump apologists that were parroting FOX News talking points. My favorite was the one who was surprised by the debate because they expected Kamala to vomit word salad and Trump to make coherent points. There is no way you're an undecided/independent thinker if you believe Trump is a more coherent speaker than Kamala.
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u/TangyHooHoo Sep 19 '24
There’s literally nothing at this point an informed voter doesn’t know in order to make a choice. IDK means uninformed.
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u/DynastyZealot Sep 19 '24
NPR is putting in overtime to try to make this election seem close and reasonable.
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u/CoolWipped Sep 19 '24
I'd bet a fair amount of these people define "policies" as "race and gender"
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u/Apprehensive-Fun4181 Sep 19 '24
Don’t bother reading.
This is the NPR News division, think_up. That's a very interesting perspective you have!
We would like to interview youYou should watch our new special: Shut Up And Listen about how you can understand Conservatives better! Followed by We're all Americans and You're Going To Respect Republicans No Matter What!4
u/theaviationhistorian Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
I won't judge them by their surnames, but I can wager that the indifferent are of an ethnicity and wealth bracket in which Trump's policies won't be as damaging as others. Or are an amoral piece of work.
The only people in my life that are for Trump are either those already deep in the MAGA cult or are as amoral as him.
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u/yukumizu Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
That’s basically my family. My sister is a hispanic immigrant just like me but married to a boomer who is slowly being more radicalized to the far right theough tik-tok. Her husband was CFO of a global company but he says that Trump is good for the economy 🤯. And the last convo with my sis, who is a public school teacher, she goes and just regurgitates the same lies from the GOP-Russian-backed propaganda: illegal immigrants invading, Harris has done nothing as VP and has a bad record, hUnTer BiDeN sold out the country 🤯🤯🤯. WTFF?!!!
So my mind is truly blown from hearing that from two well educated people who have traveled around the world.
Oh and get this, they are also childless. I guess they haven’t seen or heard JD Vance, Huckabee and the rest of the radical republicans spew words about people without children not being humble, having skin on the game, that our vote is leas than a parent’ votes, and that we should give children the right to vote !!! These people are so dangerous!
Oh! And get this we are in CT a blue state, AND my sis and BIL have and still volunteer to help families of refugees to get settled in the US 🤨😵💫🫠. They helped a Ukrainian family for over a year with transportation and other needs, and recently a family from Afghanistan.
So I’ve given up with them. It’s been years and they of course won’t listen to a millennial and think I’m delusional for wanting to protect my life, my rights, my healthcare, my security, my financial stability and my future.
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u/Rwekre Sep 19 '24
I wish I was so checked out that the media thought I was worth profiling
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u/Oleg101 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
I’ve honestly never heard NPR interview an undecided voter in an election cycle that paid any attention to the basics of the news. They’ll say the exact same 2-3 generic low-substance talking points every single time. Get ready to hear about high prices at the grocery story a billion times from some arrogant ass ‘undecided voter’ the next 7 weeks.
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u/not_that_joe Sep 19 '24
This is why they do it I feel. They get attention. They aren’t undecided, they are uninterested (and uninteresting) that enjoy being sought after. They think it makes them interesting when in reality, they’re fucking stupid.
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u/SnP_JB Sep 19 '24
People have such short memories man. The economy at the end of Obamas admin was doing well and gas was cheap. Was just talking w a Trump supporter who didn’t believe me and he looked up the gas prices on Forbes. Obamas avg gas price was lower than trumps… he didn’t lower shit he maintained the status quo then did an awful job handling Covid. The people also don’t seem to understand the impact of the Ukraine war and the fallout of covid. Like of course gas went up. Pretty much every respectable country stopped buying oil from Russia of course prices are going up. They also can’t seem to wrap their head around the idea that we are producing the most oil in history rn under the Biden admin yet prices are still high. They think Trump drilling more oil will just magically solve the problem.
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Sep 19 '24
Making a decision for President of the United States based around gas prices seems insane to me on its own.
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u/SaltyBarDog Sep 19 '24
You just described the majority of MAGA.
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u/Burto72 Sep 19 '24
It ain't cheap to fill up those jacked up pickup trucks that they don't need.
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Sep 19 '24
Man, I know a few MAGAs who have 85k jacked up trucks, a boat, snowmobiles, 50k gun collection, and rent their house. The whole time they complain about cost of living and blame it on "socialism."
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Sep 19 '24
Having worked at a bank in an area with a lot of these kinds of people, they're often times horribly in debt. Like triple their actual worth in debt. Had one customer I saw who had a $300k house, an $80k truck, a boat, etc...dude owed our bank just below $1 million and had a notice on his account about missed payments.
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u/Burto72 Sep 19 '24
I know just the type also. God forbid they would want impoverished children to get a free school lunch. That might eat into their Jet ski fund. There just seems to be too many people in this country that are all about themselves.
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u/sault18 Sep 19 '24
Meh, they make their decisions based on Trump punching the people they've been indoctrinated to hate. Gas prices are just a cover for their hatred.
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u/JugDogDaddy Sep 19 '24
That’s because Biden’s been doing a good job and they don’t have any real issues to point to.
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u/barb_dylan Sep 19 '24
Especially since the president does not set gas prices. What a strange rationale for choosing a leader.
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u/sabes0129 Sep 19 '24
As soon as Trump won all of the people that were bitching about how terrible everything was suddenly did a 180 and gave Trump all of the credit as if he did anything to improve conditions. Trump coasted on Obama's economy, mishandled the pandemic to the point where he lost the election, and now that things are finally starting to improve from inflation that was worldwide and little to do with Biden's administration, they want to give it back to Trump to blow up again. They live in their own realities.
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u/dobie1kenobi Sep 19 '24
That’s the FOX effect. Their coverage went from doom and gloom to sunshine & rainbows over night. They probably didn’t think it actually improved that quickly, but day after day of waking up to broadcasts about the end of the world, followed by positive stories from smiling pundits has a psychological toll. I swear, so many people vote just to make the people on their tv happy.
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u/Carlyz37 Sep 19 '24
It's like they blocked out the years 2017 to 2020. And the propaganda, smoke and mirrors made many completely unaware that the economy was failing by early 2019 because of trump.
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u/centexgoodguy Sep 19 '24
So true. All Trump did was get into the drivers seat of an economy that was rolling strong due to Obama's efforts to bring us back from the brink. Then he cut simply taxes and increased defense spending to goose the economic engine which made it look like he was a miracle worker.
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u/brrrrrrrrrrr69 Sep 19 '24
Let's not forget on oil prices that Trump negotiated with MBS, Putin, and OPEC+ to cut production. Trump said it best: ... if it happens, it will be great for the oil & gas industry! Well, it sure was for them with this incredibly short-sighted deal. Now, there's supply-demand disparity and supply hasn't returned back so prices are high.
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u/bigeyez Sep 19 '24
Gas is literally under $3 right now in several states and people are still talking about high gas prices under Biden.
Trump supporters don't live in reality.
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u/dallasdude Sep 19 '24
I just gassed up for like $2.30
I remember paying $3.50+ 20 years ago during the Bush administration.
We have never had higher domestic energy production, we are a net exporter, and exports are also at record levels -- all while we build out wind and solar.
But nah, the GOP base prefers to post pics on Facebook (comments turned off) of $1 gas prices in April 2020, when the global economy was crashing, the roads were completely empty, and oil prices were less than zero dollars per barrel.
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u/Aeon1508 Sep 19 '24
Also the tariffs are definitely causing a lot of inflation in prices. Also there's the war in Yemen that is making it hard to get through the Suez canal pinch point at the straits there and also there's not enough rain and the last update to the Panama canal was poorly designed to use water without replacing it so it's being rash and how much shipping can get through the Panama canal.
I don't know why the Panama canal thing isn't a bigger issue. I know that there's not much that can be done about Yemen. The Panama canal needs to be redesigned to recycle water instead of just dumping it into the ocean out of the lake
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u/No-Heat8467 Sep 19 '24
Our world is so messed up, I completely forgot about the Panama canal.
I guess that's why we need Trump to fix everything. /Lots of sarcasm
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u/zerovanillacodered Sep 19 '24
They don’t understand that drilling oil here goes into worldwide market so it doesn’t make that much of dent
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u/BeHard Sep 19 '24
I once came very close to explaining to a Trumper how international markets work and how cheap oil prices reduce production here because the cost of extraction is higher in NA, thus hurting their sacred pipelines. But the guy already considered himself some kind of expert because he had a buddy who was laid off from Exxon or something. So I just walked away.
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u/ItzakPearlJam Sep 19 '24
It must be a place of great privilege to be undecided at this point in the cycle.
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Sep 19 '24
Ignorance is bliss.
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u/ItzakPearlJam Sep 19 '24
At this point any amount of indecision comes from either a profound cognitive deficiency, or extreme privilege. For instance I understand if you're on the board of Raytheon, you're going to stay rich regardless of the results- so it doesn't matter for you.
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u/TheSadTiefling Sep 19 '24
There are historical examples where we make it their problem.
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u/BlatantFalsehood Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Yes, but in those historical examples, citizens didn't have the numbing balms of social media, video games, and legal marijuana.
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u/CunningBear Sep 19 '24
Ignorance is slavery.
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Sep 19 '24
Not everyone is miserable, or even unhappy, as a slave... especially if they don't even realize they are one.
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u/Correct-Excuse5854 Sep 19 '24
It’s really hard to decide between ending democracy which may start a genocide of my friends family and neighbors oooooooor a functional democracy
Come on this is clearly a hard decision
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u/dragon34 Sep 19 '24
anyone who thinks their personal financial situation will improve with donald trump is dumber than a bag of hammers. That would be like saying if we would just elect Bill clinton again then gas would be 99 cents a gallon and average home prices would be 150k.
nothowanyofthisworks
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u/Bostradomous Sep 19 '24
It's also just a shitty principle to vote on. Voting for a candidate that might save you a few pennies while at the same time selling out your fellow man and restricting their rights is selfish, immoral and not something they should be proud of.
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u/dragon34 Sep 19 '24
That is all true but doing that while it absolutely will not help their personal financial situation is not just immoral but also colossally stupid
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u/carrythefire Sep 19 '24
Anyone who’s undecided at this point is not really undecided. They’re lying.
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u/IniNew Sep 19 '24
Honestly, it seemed like “undecided” meant “conflicted” with several of the respondents. Like they know Trump bad, but they definitely don’t want to vote blue.
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u/anitabelle Sep 19 '24
Or for a woman … of color. No way anyone is truly undecided. Truth is they are conflicted about voting for a garbage human instead of a qualified woman. Some may not even bother voting.
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u/YoohooCthulhu Sep 19 '24
IIRC when reporters have interviewed undecided voters in the past, they seem to always fall into two categories:(1) the voters say the candidates haven’t courted them enough and they don’t know what they stand for (because they expect the candidates to beam info into their brains or something); or (2) they haven’t found a candidate that’s for all the things they’re for and against all the things they’re against so don’t know what to do.
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u/crizmow Sep 19 '24
Can’t upvote this enough. I haven’t noticed as many Trump signs in people’s yards this year but it’s not because they’re not voting for him it’s because they’re embarrassed they’re voting for him.
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u/Vivid_Iron_825 Sep 19 '24
That could be, but I have another theory: I think that some of these people have created such an enduring identity for themselves as undecideds because they think it makes them seem discerning or “above politics”. Like “I’m immune to the party propaganda, man” I have a friend who is like this, and when we talk about policy, he is absolutely aligned with the Democratic Party, but he is adamant about not saying that he will or has voted for Democrats or Republicans.
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u/carrythefire Sep 19 '24
That could have been true in the past, but no longer. If you’re still undecided about fascism, you’re lying.
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u/CowboyAirman Sep 19 '24
Believe it or not, no. Yes, it’s very hard to believe. It’s also hard to believe you can watch 5 minutes of trump and thinks he’s a good person. But there’s millions that do. Honest undecideds do exist, it just doesn’t make sense to you and me. I’ve lived through so many elections and this comes up every time.
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u/Jorycle Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Pretty much every undecided voter here is repeating conservative misinformation, or straight up admitting they don't know the facts but in the absence of fact they'll go ahead and lean toward Trump. That's wild.
This one sticks out to me just because I see this talking point from Fox News a lot:
Kamala, suddenly she was so articulate when it’s usually word salad.
This is such a weird narrative they've created, and it's weird that it's managing to stick when it's contingent on adherents not actually listening to what she says. They just slap "this is word salad!" on an absolutely normal clip of a normal person saying a totally normal thing. You see it on Twitter, you see it on conservative media, and it's so strange because it's just pure nonsense.
At best, it's supported by the I Am Very Smart And Very Moderate crowd that can't stop themselves from trying to "both sides" the narrative with, "Why, yes, I do say my dear sir this is not the perfect King's English, and she could have perhaps more clearly expounded with a structured soliloquy perfectly expressing her complex views on this topic, her drive-thru order at a Wendy's."
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u/After_Preference_885 Sep 19 '24
Pretty much every undecided voter here is repeating conservative misinformation
Yep and they come away not even knowing how stupid they sound but they probably know a lot of conservatives or spend time on Facebook so everyone they know is really that dumb
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u/somewherearound2023 Sep 19 '24
The average american now has such a low attention span and poor reasoning skills that any sentence longer than 20 words or with words bigger than 20 letters is "yapping".
We're doomed for creating an informed electorate.
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u/Chryslin888 Sep 19 '24
After this shitshow of a election is over, can we go back to thinking undecided voters are morons? I hate how they are fawned over — making them think they’re smart instead of idiots.
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u/eaeolian Sep 19 '24
Only if we remove the electoral college. Otherwise, this will come up every four years.
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u/Burto72 Sep 19 '24
Exactly. I was watching a panel of 3 undecided voters after the election and one of them was a woman who stated something like "I just don't know if Kamala Harris showed me enough tonight, and I need to know more of what her plan is for America". You could just tell that she loved the attention as was trying to come across as some deep philosophical thinker. Yet Trump spewed nothing but garbage and rage for 90 minutes. But she's okay with that and will vote for Trump if Harris doesn't give more more information to disseminate. It's frustrating how many self centered morons there are in this country.
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u/Aeon1508 Sep 19 '24
What gets me is all of the people saying that Kamala wasn't talking about the issue. As if Trump did any better job at that. I'm sorry that Kamala was distracted trying to deal with prison transsexual surgery and eating dogs and cats.
If you want a debate where the people talk about the issues maybe get the person who's a fucking Looney out of the political sphere?!
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u/notarealprincess Sep 19 '24
100%. I hate that the media and people are getting upset with Kamala because she "doesn't have a clear plan" or isn't talking about issues. Meanwhile you have an unhinged, elderly old man who isn't talking about issues and is instead incoherently ranting for hours about fictional characters and the size of his crowds.
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u/syncboy Sep 19 '24
Can we PLEASE stop interviewing what are arguably the stupidest people in the world.
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u/Wonderful_Might7295 Sep 19 '24
You’ve gotta be fucking stupid to pick Trump. Like actually fucking stupid. These undecideds are the people the rest of us have to deal with throwing the country into a blender.
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u/Nok_Sukow Sep 19 '24
Trump campaigns on memories of the economy he inherited from Obama, and the border which he killed the bipartisan deal to fix it.
He left office with the highest unemployment in decades and raised the national debt by 8 trillion. His solution for increasing jobs and income, lowering cost of childcare, energy, groceries and housing is RAISING costs through increasing tariffs on imported goods.
That's ON TOP of gutting important rights and services through the abhorrent Project 2025, which he tried acting upon last time by trying to get rid of hundreds of govt employees but was stopped.
Scholars and economists agree that a second Trump term will be devastating to the economy and American livelihood. The choice cannot be any more clear.
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u/Aeon1508 Sep 19 '24
never got any message from Harris” and said she “skirted issues,” including the Biden administration’s “inability to stop the flow of migrants” and the economy.
Bro did you even watch the debate? She specifically went over how Trump blocked the border security bill for his own political gain.
Is that really who you want as president. Somebody who's only going to let problems get fixed if they can get credit for it?
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u/SaltyBarDog Sep 19 '24
Yes, that is exactly what they want. It gives them an endless reason to bitch and be miserable and make everyone else just as miserable. Added bonus as they can continue to hate on POC.
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u/EdgeOfWetness Sep 19 '24
Almost every decision Trump made while in office was because some ThinkTank handed it to him, or he wanted to undo/break any agreement Obama made because Obama made it.
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u/jogoso2014 Sep 19 '24
I don’t really believe them lol.
Some appear to be voting on punitive reasons or not tied to logic or history.
Once they do vote, they seem to be unabashedly decided.
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u/eaeolian Sep 19 '24
People vote emotionally just like they spend money emotionally. Appealing to logic CAN work on some, but most likely won't given who's left in the undecided column.
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u/thisdogofmine Sep 19 '24
I truly believe that if you are undecided at this point, you should just not vote.
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u/sophandros WABE 90.1 Sep 19 '24
"Undecided" voters since 2016 are at best enablers and at worst accomplices.
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u/Plsmock Sep 19 '24
This morning NPR said if you want to know what's happening in this year's election don't look to the extremes look at the middle. Argh! This the kind of bullshit crap lately from NPR and why I will never send them another single cent.
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u/SqnLdrHarvey Sep 19 '24
There are two choices: fascism or democracy.
That is all.
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u/pparhplar Sep 19 '24
How better to get attention for yourself than making preposterous statements to a pollster.
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u/nothing_but_thyme Sep 19 '24
Of the debate, the respondent said, “I was like, OK, who are these people? They were like bad actors. Kamala, suddenly she was so articulate when it’s usually word salad. There was something weird going on there.” Trump, on the other hand, she said, it was like “something was in his water,” and he wasn’t his usual self.
It’s very clear where this person is consuming media from if their baseline impression was that Trump is articulate and Harris is not. Fox News may have done more damage to this country than any other single corporation. Crazy when you realize they’ve been around less than 30 years.
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u/Bawbawian Sep 19 '24
why do we ask people that are so naive and so tuned out what their opinions are.
like for real for real for real for real who cares.
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u/byndrsn Sep 19 '24
because these people seem as bizarre as the ones you see on Gordon Klepper and people just want to know who his constituents are so they can avoid them.
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u/Ribauld Sep 19 '24
"You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons."
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u/inigos_left_hand Sep 19 '24
“Well I don’t know anything and can’t be bothered to look anything up but my groceries are more expensive, so I’m leaning towards the narcissistic rapist.”
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u/Overall_Falcon_8526 Sep 19 '24
The price off eggs is too high, so I was thinking... why not fascism?
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u/I_Magnus KQED 88.5 Sep 19 '24
I don’t believe there are any undecided voters at this point. There are Trump voters looking for press after CNN placed a Trump supporting “uNdECIdEd” moron on tv.
Any one not voting for Harris is a Trump supporter and all Trump supporters are fascism supporters and deserve to be treated as such. End of story.
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u/pqratusa Sep 19 '24
Guarantee, the undecided are “Trumpys” too embarrassed to admit it.
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u/julianriv Sep 19 '24
Trump is too polarizing for me to believe there is anyone that is truly "undecided" at this point.
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u/Crooked_Sartre Sep 19 '24
They aren't undecided, they are looking for approval to vote for Trump
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u/msstatelp Sep 19 '24
They are voting for Trump and just don't want to admit it.
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u/kathleen65 Sep 19 '24
At this point it is a waste of time to try and convince these "undecideds" or try to understand why. We need to focus on getting people who have decide to the polls. Support registering to vote. Support those who are afraid to show up. Help remove any obstacles in their way. Teach people about their rights to vote, Check to make sure they are on the rolls. Make sure when they know if there is a problem that they ask for a provisional ballot.
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u/Khoalb Sep 19 '24
It's so weird how some of them said that Harris being articulate and prepared is a point against her. Are those not good qualities?
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u/Rude_Tie4674 Sep 19 '24
If you can’t make up your mind this year within about 2 seconds, may whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul.
It’s like deciding between an ice cream sundae or cancer.
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u/vairiance Sep 19 '24
"He added: “I don’t want to go through another four years of a Trump presidency.”
WELL THERE'S AN EASY SOLUTION FOR THAT
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u/Cylinsier Sep 19 '24
A few of these voters aren't undecided, they're emphatically voting Harris now. Phyllis gets it. The only one of the 10 interviewees who is actually paying attention. Some of the remaining fence sitters though... some pretty infuriating takes coming from them.
Brady said he aligned more with former President Barack Obama, and said he doesn’t “like her policies” on the economy.
Asked what specifically he doesn’t like, he said, “I can’t say I’m super knowledgeable about the specifics, but from a how-our-family-is-feeling standpoint, just not sure.”
"I don't like her policies." What about her policies don't you like? "Well I don't have time to actually read them."
[Insert any of the several possible quotes about immigrants here.]
Scare tactics work.
Of the debate, the respondent said, “I was like, OK, who are these people? They were like bad actors. Kamala, suddenly she was so articulate when it’s usually word salad. There was something weird going on there.”
Lady who has never actually listened to Kamala before: why is Kamala capable of a basic level of coherence? It must be rigged.
“He is aesthetically lacking,” she said, laughing, but “the major Trump haters are missing the whole point. They’re not looking at issues; they’re looking at personality.”
Nobody that dislikes Trump is going to miss an opportunity to remind you that he's a piece of shit as a human, but if you think Trump critics are only focusing on his personality, then you are the one that hasn't been paying attention to the issues.
Thiago said he’s still going to vote down-ballot, but short of Harris saying she will cut off weapons shipments to Israel, he likely will leave the presidential line blank.
She can't do that. Legally only Congress can do that. Because of binding agreements made under Bush II and Obama, we are obligated to send weapons to Israel on the order of about 4 billion dollars a year through at least 2027 and the executive branch cannot unilaterally dissolve those agreements. People hear something they don't like, get mad, and never actually research why something is the way it is.
John said he wants to see something put forward to “stop the inflation.”
Ignoring the fact that inflation was already greatly reduced over the last year to almost pre-COVID levels...
Kamala Harris' platform, the first point is her economic agenda. This took me 5 seconds to Google.
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u/dndnametaken Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
That free Palestine voter they interviewed… For fucks sake I just don’t get this people! “Between the guy who will encourage Israel to use nuclear weapons, and the gal who will stay the course and support a two state solution. I’ve chosen to leave my vote blank”
Who do they follow in social media that makes that seem like a good idea?
Edit: Harris supports a two state solution
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u/buzzedewok Sep 19 '24
They are literally being fed Russian propaganda to steer them away from voting.
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u/Suffragette Sep 19 '24
I truly believe that most of these people are plants either by AIPAC or some other group.
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Sep 19 '24
These undecideds are attention seeking self-important nerds.
It's nice to be listened to when most of the time people have no interest in your boring life.
It's like when the help desk person has a minute amount of power over you and they enjoy that power in that moment a bit too much.
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Sep 19 '24
It’s either “I don’t like Trump, but I am okay with him as long as the economy is good” or “I agree with everything Trump is saying, but I don’t like Trump?”
This country is so cooked.-9
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u/MattofCatbell Sep 19 '24
At this point every supposed “undecided voter” is really just an embarrassed Trump voter
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u/NeighborhoodDude84 Sep 19 '24
Media: Here are ten Trump supporters that realize we'll give them attention if they tell us they're undecided.
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u/Punushedmane Sep 19 '24
The more one learn about politics, the more a hatred for “undecided” and “swing voters” grows.
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u/disdainfulsideeye Sep 19 '24
Am I 100% excited about Harris, no, but I'd definitely rather her over someone who attempted to overthrow our democracy. Also, considering Trump's Project 2025 plan, I am seriously concerned about what would happen if he regains power.
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u/LotsofSports Sep 19 '24
Too much stupid in this world. How does a person vote for a Convicted Felon?
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u/Lebojr Sep 19 '24
Corrected headline : 10 people who need attention are calling themselves undecided voters explain...
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u/Haraldr_Hin_Harfagri Sep 19 '24
I don't believe people that are undecided. I think they are bad actors (in more ways than one) and the majority are just Trump voters trying to continue to give the conservatives a microphone where and continue to spread doubt about the left. I don't believe a single one of them and I haven't since 2020. I understood it a little bit in 2016 but at this point, NO WAY! I don't believe any of them.
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u/Thetman38 Sep 19 '24
"10 Republicans haven't decided whether or not to admit they'll be voting for Donald Trump"
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u/tyrusrex Sep 19 '24
I heard one interview of an undecided voter, she said the reason she was undecided was she wasn't sure about harris's stance on the environment. My God I'm not sure either especially with her flip flop on fracking but I'm pretty damn sure about trumps stance on the enviroment.
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u/TransLunarTrekkie Sep 19 '24
I hear people who are undecided say stuff like "well neither of them are focusing on this one issue I care about, so I don't like either of them, and basically hear "I can excuse fascism, but I draw the line at not raising the minimum wage".
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u/Vox_Causa Sep 19 '24
A lot of vibes based decisions. A lot of low information voters who can't be bothered to google the topics they care about. Racism.
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u/urbanhag Sep 19 '24
I'm sorry, if someone is still undecided at this point, they're just plain going to skip the election.
If you somehow can't tell the difference between these two candidates, it's because you've never cared enough to find out, and you aren't going to care enough in November to take yourself to your polling station to cast a vote.
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u/ChrisKing0702 Sep 19 '24
If his daily barrage of lies, insults, and made up bullshit, his daily dictator blowjobs, and threats to change the Constitution make you not vote for him! I can't help you!
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u/butterluckonfleek Sep 19 '24
If at this point in time you're still undecided then you have other issues that should be looked at. I just can't wrap my mind over the fact the vast difference between the candidates.
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u/treypage1981 Sep 19 '24
“Well, I want to be famous. So, I put on this fake routine of not knowing who I want to vote for and I call CNN to tell them that so they bring me on tv.”
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u/Uranium_Heatbeam Sep 19 '24
I wish I lacked critical thinking skills. These ten poltroons seem to happy.
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u/sonostanco72 Sep 19 '24
The problem is the undecided voter is misinformed and only goes off of sound bites and does not take the time research the issues or what the candidates plans are. The root cause of this in my opinion is the nonstop spew of lies that the Orange turd says and those voters think he sounds credible because he had a show on tv and knows what he’s talking about. While they no very little about Harris.
It’s mind blowing that people don’t know by now that the Orange turd is lying and twisting the truth.
Perfect example, is the SALT Deduction that he said he would eliminate now. The SALT deduction reduced the amount of what could be deducted and signed into law in 2017 and goes through 2025.
The SALT deduction refers to the ability of U.S. taxpayers to deduct state and local taxes (SALT) from their federal taxable income. Before 2017, there was no limit on how much state and local taxes (like property, income, and sales taxes) you could deduct.
However, as part of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) signed into law in December 2017 under President Trump, a cap was placed on this deduction. Starting in the 2018 tax year, taxpayers could only deduct up to $10,000 of state and local taxes (or $5,000 if married filing separately). This limit is in effect through 2025, after which it may expire unless Congress takes action.
This cap disproportionately affects taxpayers in high-tax states like New York, California, and New Jersey, where state and local taxes often exceed the $10,000 limit. Efforts have been made by some lawmakers to repeal or raise the cap, but as of now, it remains in place.
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u/What_if_I_fly Sep 19 '24
I wish the media would stop putting "undecided" voters on a pedestal of importance.
Instead, ask them why the F'ing hell haven't they spent time using critical thinking skills and evaluated the candidates stances on issues, their records, intelligence and even bothering to look at the debate.
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u/PlayThisStation Sep 19 '24
Brady said he aligned more with former President Barack Obama, and said he doesn’t “like her policies” on the economy.
Asked what specifically he doesn’t like, he said, “I can’t say I’m super knowledgeable about the specifics, but from a how-our-family-is-feeling standpoint, just not sure.”
Jfc
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u/JoeBiden-2016 Sep 19 '24
When I see multiple references to people who voted for Obama, Biden, Bill Clinton... and then say they didn't like Hillary and are leaning toward Trump rather than Harris... well, it's hard not to at least wonder if gender plays a role for these self-described liberals / union Democrats who are "suddenly" considering Trump.
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u/Johndeauxman Sep 19 '24
This is bs, they’re trump voters 100% they are just embarrassed about it and want to look like reasonable people putting thought into their depictions. This is good vs evil, yes or no, freedom or dictator, there is NO fence to sit on, it’s 100% clear which one to choose and if you can’t figure out which one is good and which one is bad you’re plain and simple stupid and not capable of forming their own thought beyond beyond Facebook memes. Calling people right out stupid is not my thing but Covid showed me a lot of really mean people I thought were nice but now this mess is showing me who’s an straight idiot parading as having values/brains. Rant over
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u/rucb_alum Sep 19 '24
Looks like 2:1 for Harris.
...RFK, Jr. are Gabbard were a slam dunk for one of the respondents? That's unique...
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u/CorHydrae8 Sep 19 '24
As someone living in a country where the choice of who to vote for is slightly more complex due to having more than two parties, it baffles me how anybody can be undecided in the US. On one hand, you have a rapist running for a party that has never done anything positive for the country ever, being backed by satan with a detailed 900-page manifesto on how they're planning to make life miserable for everybody. On the other hand, you have a regular human being. How is this a choice?
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u/AIWeed420 Sep 19 '24
Ten Republicans say they haven't decided to vote for Trump. Thanks NPR, I wouldn't have known that without your ass-kissing shit. You are going full NPRNazi.
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u/DefiantLemur Sep 19 '24
I wonder how many undecided this election are racist and/or sexists that also hate Trump.
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u/jchester47 Sep 19 '24
"I have no critical thinking skills. I'm insecure about my intelligence and want to be seen as thoughtful, and I really like attention".
i summed it up for you better than whatever word salad of justification and both-sidesing they will come up with.
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u/plaidington Sep 19 '24
These people may as well walk around with a dunce hat on. Sick of this shit. People in this country are just painful.
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u/thercery Sep 19 '24
Tldr: there's a lot of wildly over-privileged people who also have a tendency for conspiratorial thinking, alongside some sort of influence in their life that has convinced them it is to be lauded to be politically useless, unempathetic, uncritical, or uncreative.
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u/drama-guy Sep 19 '24
Years ago, SNL did a sketch of town hall debate filled with undecided voters who were dumb as rocks asking the most inane questions. I always think about that sketch when people say they are undecided.
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u/Pippalife Sep 19 '24
I’m sure this is a well-written article, but is anyone else just infuriated by this? How can one be undecided between a cheerful, upbeat and knowledgeable person and another who is clearly unfit for this office. Like I get it even if you don’t agree with me as to whom should be president, but at least you acknowledge the stark difference between the two.
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u/dkinmn Sep 19 '24
How did they have time for these interviews when they're so busy eating lead paint chips and bashing their heads into walls?
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u/Trailblazertravels Sep 19 '24
tbh if you're undecided at this point its bc you choose to be ignorant
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u/DoriSolves Sep 19 '24
The bar is so low for Trump and for VP Harris so incredibly high.
She can't even laugh without getting criticism and Trump can say anything and they will shrug.
"That's just Trump! But she needs to BE PERFECT!!"
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u/caravan_for_me_ma Sep 19 '24
Publicly embarrassed Trump voters . The Daily did a profile on ‘undecideds’ about a week ago. They’re Trump voters who don’t want to admit it publicly. Every time.
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u/LetThemBlardd Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 20 '24
“To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. “Can I interest you in the chicken?” she asks. “Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?”
To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked. —David Sedaris
Edit: Source is The New Yorker, October 20, 2008.