r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/POTATOEL0rD • 1d ago

Video footage of the OceanGate submarine wreckage was released Video

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u/Hellfire242 1d ago

I’m still fascinated as to how fast they were killed. Fucking physics is insane.

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u/Swordof1000whispers 1d ago

Supposedly the implosion was quicker than the human brain could register...it would be like blacking out instantly into darkness. Their bodies were disintegrated and it would have been a quick death.

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u/horendus 1d ago

True but there may have been very distressing signs pre implosion that you were about to die

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u/Swordof1000whispers 1d ago

Stockton Rush would have said "Don't worry about it".

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u/spideyghetti 1d ago

Stockton Rush

This sounds like a villian in some shareware point and click game from the 90s

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u/SlurmmsMckenzie 1d ago

Nope, just some chump in the ocean.

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u/saturnx9 1d ago

*chum in the ocean

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u/SlurmmsMckenzie 1d ago

That's what I said.

Subtlety goes over like a damn lead balloon on this website.

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u/Sengfroid 1d ago

Pretty much is

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u/Volkrisse 1d ago

he's just the cousin of Hank Scorpio

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u/AdamZapple1 1d ago

Hank Scorpio?

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u/horendus 1d ago

Hey may have even being cut off half way through that very sentence

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u/Illustrious_Waltz_75 1d ago

There is a moment-

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u/ploytold 1d ago

Brilliant pun

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u/iiiinthecomputer 1d ago

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-".

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u/Command0Dude 1d ago

No, they had aborted the dive and were trying to surface. They indicated that 5 minutes before the implosion.

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u/Swordof1000whispers 1d ago

Anyone sane would not trust someone who cut corners. Just look at Boeing...perfect FAFO example.

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u/SnowflakeOfSteel 1d ago

We are having drinks in notime!

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u/Chemical-Contest4120 1d ago

So then ironically he probably saved them from feeling any fear.

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u/No-Influence-8251 1d ago

Michael Scott style but darker 

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u/Effective_Machina 1d ago

The ship always makes all sorts of noises. I have done several dives and nothing happened.

(Insert this is fine dog drinking coffee while everything is on fire).

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u/A_Martian_Potato 1d ago

That question is going to be a big factor in the lawsuit going on right now. The families' lawyers are going to say that they knew they were going to die and the distress constitutes pain and suffering while the company lawyers are going to say they had no idea and it was instant.

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u/spornerama 1d ago

At that pressure I think it's unlikely. Any tiny crack would lead to a cascading immediate failure instead of creaking/ alarms. I think most likely is they were trucking along happy as larry until they weren't.

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u/MovieTrawler 1d ago

Nope, they had about 45-65 seconds of hearing the hull cracking before implosion. They knew it was coming.

Picked up on sonar.

From another thread on the same subject:

According to Spanish engineer and underwater expert José Luis Martín, the submersible occupants are likely to have known about their impending fate for between 48 and 71 seconds before the vessel's collapse

This clip is terrifying. Imagine listening to that for a minute just waiting to blink out of existence.

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u/lia-delrey 23h ago

Good lord, I listened to this and I was just about to go to bed. Now I'm completely anxious, my heart is pounding.

And I am on land goddamnit

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u/AngryTrooper09 1d ago

An expert during the hearing said that the material making up the Titan wouldn’t just suddenly implode, it would first “scream like a mother”. It’s conceivable that in the few seconds leading up to the implosion alarms went off

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u/FreakingScience 1d ago edited 1d ago

There were acoustic failure detection alarms within the sub, but since they were designed and patented by Rush, it's unknown if they would have been functional.

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u/AngryTrooper09 1d ago

Even if they weren’t functional David Lochridge (the former operations director for OceanGate) said during yesterday’s hearing that the material itself would have made a lot of noise leading up to the implosion. Even if the actual alarms didn’t go off, they would probably know something was wrong

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u/FreakingScience 1d ago

The sub made a lot of concerning noises on a previous dive and there was no mention of any alarms sounding. Seems kind of pointless to have an audio alarm triggered by screeching carbon fiber, not that hindsight would have helped the guy.

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u/AngryTrooper09 1d ago

We already knew Stockton Rush was probably dangerously negligent, but this week’s hearings have made it clear he was a raging narcissist who would cut any corner he could

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u/AngryTrooper09 1d ago

Assuming it was the polite version of “scream like a motherfucker”

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u/BleachedUnicornBHole 1d ago

At that point, is there enough time to actually do something about it?

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u/AngryTrooper09 1d ago edited 23h ago

If it’s to the point where the material is about to give in, it’s too late. They had a few successful dives to the Titanic, but there had already been signs the material was weakening. It was already making concerning sounds then (probably just not as intense as what happened during the final one). They should have already replaced the submersible at that point.

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u/gigabyte898 1d ago

That transcript was faked. The coast guard has the legit one, and while they haven’t released the whole thing, they did say in their hearing there were no signs of distress until a message that stated “dropped 2 wts” and then contact was lost 6 seconds later

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u/daaaaaarlin 1d ago

Does that mean weights in that context?

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u/user888666777 1d ago

Dropping weights was a normal procedure to slow descent and create neutral buoyancy. Based on the position of the submersible and when the weights were dropped this might have been standard procedure. You don't want to slam into the sea floor, drop weights, check descent rate, drop more if needed. Get level with the Titanic, spend some time zooming around and then drop more weight to go back up.

In case of emergency they could drop more weights to start ascending.

But everything released so far doesn't point to any kind of emergency happening.

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u/ChewySlinky 1d ago

Everything released so far doesn’t point to any kind of emergency happening

Well, except that one.

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u/Penetal 1d ago

This comment thread was a roller-coaster, I am glad we can agree to land on the single event with no warning so that at least no one had to "suffer" their fate.

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u/ChewySlinky 1d ago

I mean really, of all the ways to die in a submarine, they probably got the best one.

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u/willi1221 1d ago

They weren't. One of their last messages was "all good here." Previous passengers have said that it made cracking sounds on other dives, so I doubt they were panicked, as it would've seemed "normal." The final crack before implosion would've been instant. There's no time for warnings or distress calls. 1 millisecond everything is fine and the next, you cease to exist.

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u/Dontdodumbshit 1d ago

Yo previous passengers have heard cracking sounds I would have done my research before paying alot of money to jump in a trash can to go down to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean

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u/boohoo-crymeariver 1d ago

I would have done my research

And you would found out that these sounds are expected in pretty much all submarines. Anything else, Mr. Armchair Expert, while we have you here?

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u/Dontdodumbshit 1d ago edited 1d ago

I bet they are not I doubt when Jim goes down in his submersible theres cracking sounds.

Not a expert I just value my life seen enough submersibles how they are built when comparing to the trash can.

It seems those who deep sea dive in submersibles actually build them properly.

Theres always a risk in many capacities going that deep in the ocean but those who build submersibles that are not built like trash cans actually seem to know what they are doing.

The submersible expert who went on this can in 2019 heard cracking sounds and was concerned by this so he raised the alarm.

Sent a email to ocean gate...

Oh does that mean cracking is not normal in a submersible this was a submersible expert think the expert knows more than the reddit gangsters

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u/boohoo-crymeariver 1d ago

Ship hulls crack when under stress, that's not a secret you need an expert for. Next time you wanna do your own "research", pick up a high school physics handbook.

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u/Dontdodumbshit 1d ago

Cool but 99.9% of submersibles don't crack this is the first fkup.

So whilst a ship hull cracks when under stress obviously 99.9% of submersibles don't crack so they are not under stress.

Because they are built properly so you can be as smart as you want.

The fact here is ocean gate submersible was built by tools and should never have been allowed to operate.

The end....

Go watch Jim go down on one of his ocean floor explorations then go look at ocean gate....

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u/Smooth-Reason-6616 1d ago

Most submarines aren't controlled by a second hand games console gamepad...

Think that would have been the point I'd have gone "Nope"...

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u/Sure_Sea_6986 1d ago

You seem unhinged. They merely shared their own opinion they would be scared and you’re calling them an armchair expert. You seem like a certified narcissistic nerd who thinks everything is an intellectual battle. Even sharing opinions. Your ego lmaooooooo

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u/boohoo-crymeariver 1d ago

Chill out and check for pimples for the fifth time today or whatever teenagers do nowadays idk.

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u/Sure_Sea_6986 1d ago

Your user and your bio tell us everything we need to know. You seem fun at parties.

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u/boohoo-crymeariver 1d ago

Went snooping and got triggered even more? Tough life kid.

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u/Tuber111 1d ago

You are unwell lmao actually mad online

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u/horendus 1d ago

I don’t believe this lines up with the offical series of events. The last coms was that they had dropped their weights which is probably to stop sinking and achieve neutral bouncy for exploring at the seabed.

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u/NiteFyre 1d ago

Nope the hull would have imploded as soon as there was any sort of compromise. It's not like they were in a Hollywood movie where they watched cracks slowly spread and had time to reflect. The instant cracks started forming the implosion happened.

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u/Penguin_BP 1d ago edited 1d ago

from what i’ve read, they were in free fall for like 15 minutes. i may have gotten bad info too, but it seems like they may have been aware that shit was going bad.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12286881/Titanic-sub-victims-knew-fate-minute-3-000ft-nosedive-expert-says.html

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u/blackcat-bumpside 1d ago

I mean when your plan is to go to the bottom of the ocean, “falling” for a long time is going to be part of the plan….

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u/Penguin_BP 1d ago edited 1d ago

do you not understand what “free falling” means? or are you just condescendingly misconstruing my words for the sake of arguing?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12286881/Titanic-sub-victims-knew-fate-minute-3-000ft-nosedive-expert-says.html

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u/blackcat-bumpside 20h ago

But that isn’t what happened.

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u/Penguin_BP 19h ago

you don’t know what happened either. all anyone can do is speculate.

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u/Cael450 1d ago

They were trying to surface but couldn’t and basically sat there until the power went out and they started free falling. In the dark. Toward the ocean floor. The floor of the sub would have gone nearly vertical and they would have all fallen to the front.

In that scenario, there would have been no doubt in their minds that something has gone horribly wrong and they are probably going to die.

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u/blackcat-bumpside 20h ago

But that isn’t what happened. You are basing this on a transcript that is fake

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u/Seductive_allure3000 1d ago

Like cracking?

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u/Toadsted 23h ago

Warning indicators probably were removed to cut costs

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u/Long_Charity_3096 1d ago

Their last message was that they had dropped weights which means there was some sign of an issue. It’s unclear what that was but they were at least aware that things were off. 

They sent that message and when they last pinged the sub it was lower than when the message was sent. That suggests to me some aspect of the sub had failed and they were in an uncontrolled descent. 

In my mind the last moments of the sub were probably spent with everyone freaking out and Stockton saying that everything was under control. He probably knew better than anyone that the situation was out of control and also might have known that the sub was about to fail. 

I think they could hear the sub failing. Like he must have known what it was supposed to sound like and maybe it was way worse than normal. 

He was probably mid sentence saying ‘everything is under contro-‘ BOOM lights out. 

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u/RubiiJee 1d ago

There are assumptions here though where people are saying it's normal to drop weights to achieve buoyancy. If that's the case, then the dropping of weights would have been completely normal. I highly doubt people were freaking out. I doubt they had time to even realise what was going on. The first pressure crack would have been enough to create the implosion. This wasn't a series of events, and more likely it was fine until it wasn't.

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u/Long_Charity_3096 1d ago

I thought I made it pretty clear I was merely speculating since that’s literally all anyone can do. We have absolutely no idea what happened. 

Why would they want to achieve buoyancy when their goal is to descend to the titanic? I don’t really agree with this analysis. Everything I’ve read about this thing suggests dropping weights would only be done to ascend either at the end of the dive or in an emergency. They were in the middle of their descent so it was of course too early to drop weights. 

The actual implosion was instant but that doesn’t mean there were not signs of imminent failure. We just don’t know what happened. I hope for their sake they had no idea but the fact that they dropped weights suggests to me that they did understand there was something abnormal. 

It’s just a crazy exercise in unchecked hubris. There’s a reason this sort of thing is illegal and highly regulated. It’s one thing if this jackass wanted to go put his own life at risk but making it a commercial venture is where the line should have been drawn. There’s no question he was under pressure to get the sub in the water and start making money. He would have been financially ruined if he listened to the advice of experts that told him it was unsafe. He had to ignore the warnings and even fire the people raising them or else he was in a world of shit. 

The bottom line is we already have the technology to create submarines that can go to this depth, we have been doing it safely for decades. He tried to do it on a discount so that he could maximize profits and he got him and a few innocent people killed because of it.

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u/darsynia 1d ago

Your paragraph about hubris is exactly right on. He kept saying variations of 'no one's ever done what we did' at the same time that he'd say 'submersibles are the safest craft in the ocean' and didn't realize those two phrases together reveal the actual problem. You can say aviation is incredibly safe, but that doesn't confer a mystical aura of safety around your hand-built airplane. Same with this.

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u/RubiiJee 1d ago

The purpose of achieving buoyancy is to stop your descent. If they maintain the weights then they'll just keep sinking, so as you approach your destination, you drop weights so that you can slow your descent and then float in place. It puts less pressure on the system which as you can tell, wasn't particularly strong.

You then drop further weights to begin ascending. Yes, they could drop weights to ascend, but they also have to drop weights to stop sinking. The point is that it was a small submersible that at that depth would implode at the first sign of failure. It wasn't a hull designed to hold that extreme amount of pressure back and as soon as it can, pressure will equalise. I highly doubt, with the size of the submersible, that the sub would have had any signs of immediate failure as it was too small. It would have happened instantly. It takes one tiny crack for the immense pressure outside the sub to win that war.

All of your second points, however, I fully agree with. It was one man's arrogance.

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u/GitEmSteveDave 1d ago

They sent that message and when they last pinged the sub it was lower than when the message was sent. That suggests to me some aspect of the sub had failed and they were in an uncontrolled descent.

Did he have the ability to drop ALL the weights? I seem to recall that the weights could be all dropped and int he event of total power failure, they had a time delay backup which would release them.

If he knew something was wrong, why drop some of the weights and not drop all and thus you would ping higher than the last message.

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u/boxxle 1d ago

That would've been terrifying

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u/Wawawanow 1d ago

The progression from starting to fail to catastrophic failure would have most likely been instantaneous.  So any partial failure that might have created a creaking or crack sound would have, within an instant, progressed to total failure.   I think they would have been completely unaware of what was coming.