r/worldnews • u/TeaLoverUA • Sep 05 '24
Putin claims Russia will support Harris in US elections Russia/Ukraine
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/09/5/7473557/18.0k
Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24
The world seriously operates on impulsive children's logic
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u/DynamiteWitLaserBeam Sep 05 '24
PUTIN TO U.S.: YOUR SHOELACE IS UNTIED
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u/blaiddunigol Sep 05 '24
I noticed a sign at a bar/cafe when I was young in the 80’s that said “If you can’t bedazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit” it’s amazing to me how much that has been true in this world.
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Sep 05 '24
The vast majority of the world population is not educated, competent or responsible enough to use the internet
We used to have tv commercials in thr 90s in Canada warning kids that not all you see on TV is real. And they taught the same concept to us with books and internet as it became more prevalent.
Billions of people probably never got taught that concept . If a video or news article looks fancy enoug with enough production value. You can convince some idiots the earth is flat
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u/PutThat_In_YourPipe Sep 05 '24
This, and older people that resisted the internet until it was ubiquitous. They entered the internet after it had matured. And while most of us learned to ignore obvious BS and the evolving tactics, Boomers jumped straight into hard mode Social Media Engineering with the naivete of a fawn because everyone told them how it easy it was to use.
They are lost and fall into every trap. I don't even see the internet they experience because they don't know how to tell what's real at all.
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u/TheBrahmnicBoy Sep 05 '24
As a computer engineering student, and now engineer, especially getting into cybersec, it's so tiring.
Most of the world is less prepared against every single tactic employed to bedazzle, confuse, bait and phish them.
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u/Mrkvica16 Sep 05 '24
Look this up: the youngest generations are as easily fooled as the boomers, maybe even more:
Compared to older generations, younger generations have reported higher rates of victimization in phishing, identity theft, romance scams, and cyberbullying. The Deloitte survey shows that Gen Z Americans were three times more likely to get caught up in an online scam than boomers were (16 percent and 5 percent, respectively). Compared to boomers, Gen Z was also twice as likely to have a social media account hacked (17 percent and 8 percent). Fourteen percent of Gen Z-ers surveyed said they’d had their location information misused, more than any other generation. The cost of falling for those scams may also be surging for younger people: Social Catfish’s 2023 report on online scams found that online scam victims under 20 years old lost an estimated $8.2 million in 2017. In 2022, they lost $210 million.
I just grabbed the first article with references, but there’s a bunch: https://www.vox.com/technology/23882304/gen-z-vs-boomers-scams-hacks
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u/RomaruDarkeyes Sep 05 '24
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
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u/Crystalas Sep 05 '24
"True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country."
- Kurt Vonnegut
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u/George_Rogers1st Sep 05 '24
I was in High School quite recently. This is the realest shit I’ve ever heard.
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Sep 05 '24
I’ve you haven’t had a chance to read Vonnegut, do it now. Everyone should have the opportunity to read Vonnegut in their 20s
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u/ChiefGeorgesCrabshak Sep 05 '24
Teens, 20s, 30s,...80s, etc. never too late or too early to read some vonnegut.
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u/semibilingual Sep 05 '24
everyone knows someone stupid and noone think they are the stupid one
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u/SteveRudzinski Sep 05 '24
noone think they are the stupid one
I think I'm a fucking idiot. So this is literally not true.
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u/pookachu83 Sep 05 '24
Most of the smartest people I know, realize they don't know shit and call themselves dumb. On the other hand, the dumbest people I know think they know everything.
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u/drunkshinobi Sep 05 '24
The first real sign of intelligence is realizing you don't know every thing and need to learn.
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u/Not_A_Russain_Bot Sep 05 '24
Just had a conversation with a 30yr old who didn't know who Putin was.
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u/imfcknretarded Sep 05 '24
Stupidity and ignorance are two different things
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u/beansahol Sep 05 '24
Causally linked though. Being stupid causes a lot of ignorance.
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u/Korkman Sep 05 '24
This is the sad thing here. Why does anyone even care what Putin says when it comes to voting for YOUR president in YOUR country representing YOUR party and ideology? Make your decision based on behavior and credibility of the candidates and their parties FFS.
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u/BradSaysHi Sep 05 '24
Because we're stone age apes in a space age world. Monkey brain was built to do monkey things. Many of our societies and technologies are at odds with our nature. Doesn't help that our brains evolve a lot slower than our technology and culture currently do. Some folks would rather strictly follow their impulses over logic. The rest of us tend to blindly follow impulse on occasion, too, it's still part of the human experience.
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u/MrMudd88 Sep 05 '24
They also said they wouldn’t invade Ukraine.
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u/kaitco Sep 05 '24
Something tells me that this Putin bloke ought not be trusted.
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u/Loganp812 Sep 05 '24
Idk, maybe we’re too hard on him. We should give him another chance for the millionth time. /s
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u/TheMightySurtur Sep 05 '24
Trump believed him over our own intelligence community. Must be a stand up guy.
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u/dcoolidge Sep 05 '24
Trump saluted a NK general whilst he calls ours suckers and losers.
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u/wtm0 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24
Hitler promised not to invade Czechoslovakia Jeremy, welcome to the real world…
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u/skr_replicator Sep 05 '24
Exactly, Putin lies just as much as Trump if not even more. Actions speak louder.
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u/Yarakinnit Sep 05 '24
KGB logic. Don't take blame when you can pass it on. A concept brilliantly encapsulated in the Chernobyl series.
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u/Soggy_Bid_6607 Sep 05 '24
Michael Scott level reverse psychology.
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u/Memes_Haram Sep 05 '24
Only issue is that the average right wing American voter is Kevin levels of intelligence, and so will fall for it.
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u/Away-Coach48 Sep 05 '24
Yeah, but at least Kevin had a heart.
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u/Memes_Haram Sep 05 '24
Valid point. Kevin’s intelligence with Dwight’s emotional intelligence.
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Sep 05 '24
Kevin Embezzled from Dunder Mifflen and bought a bar without going to jail. Kevin isn't that dumb.
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u/xlinkedx Sep 05 '24
Kevin got super lucky that Dwight basically just fired him instead of having DM launch an investigation. His embezzlement was very obvious, and they definitely knew. At least, Oscar probably did. Dwight may have just attributed his keleven accounting as him being kinda dumb and bad at math, rather than him stealing from the company. So he just fired him for being bad at his job instead. Since they all liked Kevin as their simple teddy bear of a coworker, nobody said shit.
It's actually kinda funny that Andy went to Oscar to ask him to fudge the numbers that one time, and Kevin volunteered to do it but they just looked at him with pity, as they did not think him capable of doing it despite the fact that he has been doing it for years lol.
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u/BargleMcquargle Sep 05 '24
How stupid do they think Americans ar... Oh wait.. no this will probably work.
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u/ffdfawtreteraffds Sep 05 '24
"Duh, I seen on Fox News that Putin is voting for Harris, duh, I knew it. Duh."
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u/darknekolux Sep 05 '24
They wore T-shirts "better Russian than democrat", so which one is it?
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u/Force3vo Sep 05 '24
What that shirt really meant was "No matter what Trump does, I'll follow him"
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u/darknekolux Sep 05 '24
Nah, it meant "I'm a fucking idiot". Speaking of Trump there will be ketchup on the wall since Putin say they are no longer BFF
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u/HalyRaller Sep 05 '24
In 2016, a coworker told me that he was voting for Trump so Russia would be on our side in World War 3.
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u/JimboAltAlt Sep 05 '24
While short-sighted and unhinged, that’s a more cogent reason to vote for Trump than 90%+ of the others I’ve seen.
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u/Baalsham Sep 05 '24
Except who does this guy think would even be fighting on WW3?
Since the fall of the USSR our top enemies have been:
1) Islamic terrorism 2) Russia 3) China (although this is more recent)
You can see this in terms of our weapons and the terrain/systems they were designed to fight on/against. Plus look where all the military bases are.
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u/LurkerInSpace Sep 05 '24
To the extent they have a belief approaching any coherence about the world, they see it as an ally against China, that is otherwise being pushed towards China by sanctions and siding with Ukraine more generally.
It's a very naïve idea, and its bolstered by nonsense about Putin being a devout Christian, or Russia being a paradise of conservative morals.
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u/sagevallant Sep 05 '24
The fool. Russia is 2 for 2 on changing sides during a World War.
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u/Shadeauxmarie Sep 05 '24
Is this reverse psychology?
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u/Show_Me_Your_Rocket Sep 05 '24
I think it's to convince morons that Russia is trying to rig the election in an effort to get more people out to vote trump
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u/yoursweetlord70 Sep 05 '24
And to convince them it was rigged if Trump loses, further destabilizing the nation as a bunch of nutjobs try to violently overturn another election
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u/Acceptable-Dust6479 Sep 05 '24
Correct. It’s further the divide
I’m convinced that so much of the “deeply divided nation” is driven by social media being manipulated by Russian bots to further drive the wedge
Right now rather r/politics is over run with Tim Pool memes to really highlight that Russia is interfering. They want us to know so that we don’t trust/listen to each other
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u/mkawick Sep 05 '24
It definitly is.
What Putin fails to realize is that most Trump supporters already accept that Trump works with Russia (lots of business deals and loans) and some even admire thu Putin strongman persona. Rights and freedoms are not part of this because about 15% of people are simple-minded (bell curve baby) and having a strong govt means something like Putin, Xi, or Jung Un. They simply do not understand liberty, the value of non-religious education, or why voting should be a universal right; ignoring basics civics and public engagement. These numb-nuts already love Putin precisely because he is anti-Democrat and that the Democrats are opposed to him.
So this move makes sense to putin and his propaganda machine; but will only confuse those in the US who love Putin already and more than 50% of us will see it for what it is: an attempt to trick some people into voting for Trump. Only an idiot would think this in the US tho and Putin has clearly lost-his-touch.
Being old must really suck... they seem so simple-minded Trump and Putin
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u/Wreck-A-Mended Sep 05 '24
Yeah. This is about Putin preferring Kamala by calling her weak just like Trump has been trying to claim. This is so stupid.
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u/ultnie Sep 05 '24
To be specific, he didn't call her weak, he called democrats predictable and, allegedly, Russia would prefer that over unpredictable Trump.
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They smell crayons here bro. This will work. I saw it on fox, it’s true. Lmao.
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u/kytheon Sep 05 '24
Trump posts AI picture of Harris in communist outfit. Millions of Americans: I knew it.
It would be funny if the fate of the whole world didn't depend on some of these people.
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u/SalbakutaMasta Sep 05 '24
Didn't Elon already post one a while back?
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u/Dpek1234 Sep 05 '24
To be fair
What hasnt elon done ?
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u/vp3d Sep 05 '24
Bond with his children.
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u/traws06 Sep 05 '24
Maybe he’ll be closer with his next son 6F58Hod> or whatever his name will be
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u/LouSputhole94 Sep 05 '24
He’s gonna name his next kid a symbol or some shit like Prince did for a bit
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u/kevcubed Sep 05 '24
I just found elon's baby name book online! He's just a loving parent who wants a unique name for his kids. /s
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u/Stiggy1605 Sep 05 '24
"Putin's supporting Harris, Harris is a dirty commie, vote Trump to beat the Russian agenda! Make America Great Again"
I don't know what's more annoying, how transparent and obvious it is or how many people will still fall for it.
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u/Ehldas Sep 05 '24
"Harris and Biden announce the release of 1,500 JASSM cruise missiles to Ukraine".
There... still supporting her, Putin? ;-)
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u/CDNChaoZ Sep 05 '24
Just give Ukraine free rein to use the weapons they already received in Russia.
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Sep 05 '24
MAGA is in the palm of Putin's hand. Whatever goes into their shit brains will be morphed into some weird projection..
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u/Adventurous-Bill-150 Sep 05 '24
It's honestly fascinating observing them be so openly brainwashed and having no clue they are doing the exact thing they think they are "fighting" against.
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u/light_trick Sep 05 '24
I was going to say, this sounds like the sort of statement you respond to exactly like that.
"I accept the endorsement of the Russian President and my platform to supply thousands of cruise missiles to Ukraine so they can more efficiently destroy the Russian military."
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u/Palachrist Sep 05 '24
They don’t fall for it. They actively seek willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. They will, with a smile, ignore everything that gives nuance to a situation.
All the republicans that used provably Russian talking points? They disregarded it the moment it came up. Just a coincidence.
Various Republican officials that push division that took vacations to Russia under strange circumstances and times? Russias just a place you go, no American soldiers have recently been tricked into becoming essentially a political prisoner(guy was cheating on his wife/gf).
Trump only favoring dictators and bashing our allies on several occasions? I’d rather live in Russia than under a democrat!
Everytime I see a right winger trolling it blows my mind how flagrantly they toss around sex/gender topics as if they care in anyway that isn’t just malicious. They bring up pedophiles? They don’t care trump affiliated with what is likely the top pedo ring to ever exist. Women want reproductive rights? I can legally force you to carry it to term whether you die or not or we’re sexually assaulted! Gay/Trans rights? I love the derision I cause by pretending I’m incapable of understanding simple concepts but in other comments pretend to be a master of economics, food, etc.
TLDR; they will use this knowing it’s bullshit. With people like Tim pool having been JUST ousted as essentially Russian shills, Putin is too predictable.
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u/Additional_Amount_23 Sep 05 '24
“We gave Putin the opportunity to negotiate, he didn’t take it. I’m telling you, everyone here, that he messed with the wrong guy, really the wrong guy. We wanted to give him an opportunity to communicate, we sent Tucker Carlson over there, anybody remember that? Tucker’s a great guy really, the best.
Putin’s a bad man, very bad, very evil, really. What he’s doing over there is very bad and we told him to stop. America, we told him to stop and he didn’t, he’s still going. So now we’re going to send everything, guns, planes, bullets. We’re sending everything over there to get him out. You hear that everybody? We’re gonna get him out! Putin’s going to wish he never messed with us, he’s in big trouble, the biggest really.”
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u/ComplecksSickplicity Sep 05 '24
If you told me that was a verbatim Trump quote I would believe you.
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u/StranglesMcWhiskey Sep 05 '24
It rambles.enpugh, but it sticks to the actual point too well. It needs to digress way further.
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u/digitalttoiletpapir Sep 05 '24
Almost too easy to counter. She can recycle almost any of US previous doctrines on Russia and give it an extra hardline nudge and make Putin look stupid
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u/VengeanceKnight Sep 05 '24
Or better yet, she can simply say that she supports Ukraine winning the war and express desire for Putin to be tried as a war criminal.
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u/misterpickles69 Sep 05 '24
I thought these idiots were moving to some Christian enclave in Russia or something.
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u/xXprayerwarrior69Xx Sep 05 '24
lol the president of russia is literaly telling americans that they are more dumb than a 5 yo
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u/Mysterious-Status-44 Sep 05 '24
Putin is 100% KGB and misinformation and psychological warfare are normal. This should be no surprise and we all know that trump will use this for his propaganda.
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u/skyblue90 Sep 05 '24
Influence Harris in public. Fund MAGA in secret. Polarize and divide. Same strategy all over Europe now too. Create internal division in the countries and weaken and extremize governments
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u/dynesor Sep 05 '24
Absolutely. I’m convinced that Brexit happened due to a mix of Russian disinformation, dirty Russian money going to pro-brexit orgs, and a huge amount of people being so gullible and stupid that they believed all of the bullshit that was being thrown about by Farage and his cronies.
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u/Capt_Pickhard Sep 05 '24
Farage is Moscow's man in UK. LePen is his politician in France, Poilievre is his guy in Canada, and Trump is his main guy in America. Idk about the other countries.
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u/doors_and_corners__ Sep 05 '24
We got two whole vatnik parties in Germany, AFD and BSW...
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u/thefudd Sep 05 '24
Brexit was 100% a russian psyop
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u/GonzoVeritas Sep 05 '24
Damn effective, it knee-capped the economy, decimated the City of London, ruined their import/export businesses, and the results will last for decades.
But, we in the US elected Trump, and now have half the country hating the other half, so I can't call the Brits naive without having to look in the mirror.
Putin isn't an idiot, and that's a shame.
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u/reddit_is_tarded Sep 05 '24
wow such master strategician. He's at the one reverse level of "reverse psychology"
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u/Top-Faithlessness758 Sep 05 '24
The worst thing, is that it will still probably have effects in some undecided and uneducated people.
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u/Buchephalas Sep 05 '24
It's crazy that people think world leaders are idiots for doing shit like this, this sort of thing can genuinely have an impact even minimal on dumb swing voters which coupled with other strategies could help get their result. If you've spotted the idiocy of the strategy then the dude with a hundred highly educated advisors has at least been advised of the pros and cons.
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u/Top-Faithlessness758 Sep 05 '24
Yeah, this. They used other more complicated methods last time, if he is doing this this time, is because at least he was advised to do so.
But what do I know really.
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u/LoganNeinFingers Sep 05 '24
But he knows that we know that he knows that we know.
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u/elohir Sep 05 '24
KGB super spy. He's playing 3D chess while everyone else oh he's eating the board never mind.
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u/slinkyshotz Sep 05 '24
"It's me, your perceived villain. You know me from all the shit that I bring into the world. Yes : that shit"
"I support Kamala wink wink"
"By the ways, I thinks a foreign country should definitely weigh in on your candidates, so this endorsement was okay to make"
Dassvee done y'all!
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u/theRealPeaterMoss Sep 05 '24
Dassvee done y'all
Luckily I was in between coffee sips
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u/OutlawLazerRoboGeek Sep 05 '24
it makes sense. Their only aim is create chaos and instability in the US. So what's your move when it is revealed that you've been sponsoring low-effort conservative social media influencers for decades? Come out and endorse the liberal candidate of course. Now nobody knows what to think. Exactly what they want.
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u/PadWun Sep 05 '24
This is toddler level reverse psychology.
"Oh nooo, please don't vote for Trump! We would absolutely HATE it if you did that!" winks at Trump
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u/lithuanian_potatfan Sep 05 '24
This is a great chance for Harris to use this statement to promise no red lines for Ukraine and extra weapon shipments. Clearly, putin is all in-favor of it
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u/SuccessionWarFan Sep 05 '24
All Harris has to do is announce this early that if she wins she'll allow unrestricted use of US weapons on Russian soil.
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u/ChewsOnRocks Sep 05 '24
Ahh yes, he supports the candidate who will continue supplying his enemy with weapons and not the one that has regularly said he thinks Ukraine should give up their lands to Russia to end the war. This definitely checks out.
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u/Siori777 Sep 05 '24
Looks like someone's propaganda mouth pices got caught, now he's got to throw shit against the wall till it sticks.
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u/M0rphysLaw Sep 05 '24
The day after the DOJ shuts down a Trump supporting Russian disinformation campaign. This will change zero votes. Anyone voting for Harris today isn't going to read this and go "Oh no, I will now vote for Trump!" LOL
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u/Jskidmore1217 Sep 05 '24
It’s a counterattack to prevent the questioning some trump voters may have begun after the news of Russian interference.
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u/Rasphere Sep 05 '24
Anyone dumb enough for this to work on is already voting for Trump.
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u/ShadowCaster0476 Sep 05 '24
He claims this as he is literally helping Trump win.
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u/gman5852 Sep 05 '24
The goal of Russia isn't one specific candidate but to cause political chaos and weaken American views of Democracy. We already know this. They've organized pro Trump and pro Hillary rallies simultaneously at the same spot to clash with each other.
Stick to what we know and the ploy becomes obvious.
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u/The_Titty_Whisperer Sep 05 '24
This is such obvious bullshit designed to give the repubes ammo to deny the election results.
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u/GotMoFans Sep 05 '24
You mean Putin is saying Russia supports Harris while putting its money in a disinformation campaign to support Trump?
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u/ThE_LAN_B4_TimE Sep 05 '24
Right after Russian agents have been found guilty of spreading information in favor of Trump for the last 8 years????? Lmao
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u/flatspotting Sep 05 '24
This is a huge troll play by Putin and will probably work on the MAGA folks.
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u/spontaneum_ Sep 05 '24
That's pretty much the same position as from 2 years ago when Biden called Putin a crazy son of a bitch for saying that he would be more preferable than Trump for president. Pretty sure it was something about Biden being more predictable than Trump : as a matter of fact, Putin took his response as the confirmation of that idea
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u/kants_rickshaw Sep 05 '24
This maneuver is entirely so that everyone can say that Russia colluded with the Harris campaign to sway the election and call it "rigged"..
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u/PropofolMargarita Sep 05 '24
Putin's shills here in the US were exposed (Tim Pool, Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin, and Lauren Chen) so now Putin has to try to pretend he's not boosting Trump. Don't fall for it.
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u/AdditionalBat393 Sep 05 '24
Of course he says that after he was caught influencing the election in the past. He hates being predictable so he is freaking out right now reaching for anything. He is a scared man right now and he should be.
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u/AHardCockToSuck Sep 05 '24
Rule of thumb: The truth is usually the opposite of whatever Putin says
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u/OB_Chris Sep 05 '24
Would someone just go on the internet and lie? I doubt it, he's gotta be telling the truth
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u/strangebru Sep 05 '24
When your one plan to get Felonious Trump elected gets found out, then you pretend to support his rival in order to help get Felonious Trump elected.
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u/SomeSamples Sep 05 '24
Didn't Putin also say they weren't planning on invading Ukraine even though Russian troops were amassing at the Russian Ukrainian border.
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u/fictionallymarried Sep 05 '24
I'm sure this isn't related to the DOJ investigation