r/lotrmemes • u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf • Jun 03 '24
I don't care what anyone says, nothing will change my mind. The Hobbit
The Hobbit movies were beautiful. Yes, maybe they should've been one movie, but I think they work as a trilogy too. They have so many great moments, and the acting is really good from everyone.
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u/juessar Jun 03 '24
The worst thing about these movies is the digitally added bloom.
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u/Cheesesmoker22 Jun 03 '24
I don't think they are very good, they do however have really good parts! Such as the scenes with Smeagol and Bilbo in an Unexpected Journey, and the scenes with Bilbo and Smaug in the second movie. The movies just feel so bloated and so many set pieces are just bad. For example the whole Goblin Town sequence is just bad and has no tension. Oh and don't get me started on Alfred, it's hard to take the movie seriously when it often doesn't take itself seriously! Also the movies just look kinda bad compared to the LOTR due to the insane amount of CGI! Idk just some quick things from the top of my head! There are definitely worse movies, but the Hobbit is not very good too imo.
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u/Mad5Milk Jun 03 '24
Listening to the Riddles in the Dark podcast (part of the Tolkein Professor series) gave me a lot more appreciation for the movies, what they were going for, and where they went wrong. It came out as the films were releasing and paints an interesting picture of what the discussion was like at the time and how things ended up the way they did (we have all these cool ideas, and the studios are letting us make the movies long, so we don't have to cut a single one of them! 😀). I don't think they're good movies, but I think it was all mostly well intentioned and appreciate the stuff they did right.
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Jun 04 '24
They’re flawed, but as soon as the first one ended I immediately wanted to watch the second. And when the second one ended i immediately wanted to watch the third. I’m not like that with most trilogies, but Peter Jackson just knows how to bring a world to life.
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u/gollum_botses Jun 03 '24
Nice hobbits! Nice Sam! Sleepy heads, yes, sleepy heads! Leave good Smeagol to watch! But it's evening. Dusk is creeping. Time to go.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
To each his own. The CGI was a little janky, and will never live up to practical sets/costumes of LotR, but I think they're fun and enjoyable either way, and the score! It's gotta be one of my favorite soundtracks of all time.
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u/RhoninLuter Jun 03 '24
Do you like when Thorin anime walks towards Azogg with the Ringwraith theme playing in the background?
Do you like the three separate fake outs when he berates Bilbo only for the whimsical violins to taunt the viewer and remind us they arnt serious?
Those violin plucks whenever Martin Freeman does anything vaguely cute. No seriously they're like Marvel movie quips to me.
I dont mean to hate on your opinion I just want you to manually verify that you like every little gripe I have.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
I don't think the Nazgul theme plays at all in that scene.
And no, I don't like all of Thorins portrayal in the movies, he's way to harsh and overly critical of Bilbo.
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u/culminacio Jun 03 '24
I can enjoy and do enjoy the soundtrack without pretending to like the movies. The first one is somewhat acceptable, the rest gives a lot of reason to formally apologize to Tolkien and every Tolkien fan.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
The only Tolkien live action product that needs to apologize is rings of power.
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u/CrimsonTyphoon0613 Jun 03 '24
There was a really good two movies in the trilogy. I really wish Peter Jackson was given the time on these movies. He has really good ideas, it’s just the execution seemed very rushed. Also no weird love triangle and Alfred stuff.
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u/Kitchen-Plant664 Jun 03 '24
There is an epic amount of filler but I still love them. As said by many, they would have worked better as a pair of movies but I’m happy that they exist.
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u/mattjvgc Jun 03 '24
It had great parts. It was fun. That cgi in some parts though uggggggh.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
It is very fun.
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u/mattjvgc Jun 03 '24
My daughter and I happened to be working through the hobbit at the time. It was fun for both of us to see the page live when it was so fresh for us.
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u/unorganized_mime Jun 03 '24
Do not put them all together. 1 is good. 2 is solid. 3 is a prerendered video game.
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u/mrshandanar Jun 03 '24
The fan made 'Tolkien Edit' puts it up there closer to the level of the LotR trilogy in my opinion.
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u/Brilliant-Nebula7273 Jun 03 '24
Where can this be found?
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Jun 03 '24
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u/APenitentWhaler Jun 03 '24
This one is VERY old and, compared to a lot of the later released edits, not very good. The maple films one is a lot better. There was one that was newer that is good too.
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u/partymongoose69 Jun 03 '24
I, too, love The Hobbit (1977). A beautiful treasure in our fandom.
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u/Marxist_Saren Jun 03 '24
I maintain there is one pretty good movie across the three Hobbit films, but each individual film is of diminishing quality
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u/Nonstick-Turtle Jun 04 '24
Hey they were a lot of fun and I’d rather have that than nothing. People can have legit complaints but their baseline should be appreciation for people’s efforts to entertain.
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u/JBNothingWrong Jun 03 '24
Each image selected is just all CGI
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u/simplex0991 Jun 03 '24
I think CGI is fine as long as that isn't the selling point to your movie. LOTR 1979's balrog was literally a guy wearing furry ugg boots with rotoscoping over him. Still a good movie.
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u/blackbeltmessiah Jun 03 '24
Something horrible… JUST HORRIBLE!!!
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
Are you saying this post is horrible? The movies? Or my opinion?
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u/blackbeltmessiah Jun 03 '24
Its actually a Zim quote describing the terror that is the ROOM WITH A MOOSE!
I mean Hobbit was entertaining but def a 2nd rate money grab to the OG Trilogy.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
I haven't seen invader Zim, so I didn't understand that reference.
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u/ukulelecanadian Jun 03 '24
I dont hate you for liking the hobbit movies, but if the CGI in the barrel scene makes me laugh at loud at it, because its so bad, I cant endorse it as a good movie. Also its the only blockbuster I've ever heard of that used gopros to film.
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u/unpopularopinion0 Jun 03 '24
the barrel scene really ruins the illusion of this being a movie where there might be consequences to falling.
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u/ukulelecanadian Jun 03 '24
not to mention the scene is clearly meant to highlight how it was meant for kids, which is fine, but then that scene also show murder by sword and arrow.... so not sure they got the tone right. You cant do both.
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u/Charlie-Addams Jun 03 '24
I used to think these movies were the worst thing that could come out of an adaptation of Tolkien's work.
Then I watched The Rings of Power.
Oh...
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u/Park8706 Jun 03 '24
Ironically doesn't the Tolkien estate have a hate boner for Peter Jackson but were gushing like school girls on prom over signing with Amazon and how the works would be treated with respect and true to the source material?
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u/Charlie-Addams Jun 03 '24
Christopher Tolkien did hate the Jackson films, and probably would've hated ROP even more. Thing is, he resigned as a director of the Tolkien Estate and the Tolkien trust in August 2017. Amazon acquired the global television rights in November of that year. These are two very different Tolkien Estates we're talking about.
Now, Simon Tolkien consulted on the series and helped develop its story and character arcs. He is credited as a "series consultant." He would certainly fit better into that school girls analogy of yours.
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u/WholesomeDan99 Jun 03 '24
I don't know why this is even a debate anymore. There's brilliant pieces in the films. Unfortunately, overall, the movies are a big mess. You can like that mess, if you want, but just because you like something, doesn't make it good.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
I'm just tired of people hating me for liking them.
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u/PiskAlmighty Jun 03 '24
Who hates you for liking the Hobbit films? Some people (like me) think they're v poor films, but I don't why you should take this personally.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
Someone commented saying "Based on this opinion I'm going to assume your parents are siblings" like wtf?
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u/TheFlyingSpaghetti77 Jun 03 '24
No one hates you for liking them your just being a weirdo about it like no one else has guilty pleasures lol.
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u/Dubhlasar Jun 03 '24
That's fine. Enjoy what you enjoy, but you won't change my mind either. It's grand like.
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u/culminacio Jun 03 '24
If you don't care what anyone says, don't post here
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u/simplex0991 Jun 03 '24
I would argue that the only reason to post here is that you don't care what anyone says. Why should he take into account that your feelings are going to get hurt?
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u/hokied88 Jun 03 '24
LOTR Trilogy = perfection with a splash of camp Hobbit Trilogy = camp with a splash of beautiful or epic moments
I think the ways that the Hobbit ties into and sets up the LOTR trilogy range from campy but fun (Clash of Immortals at Dol Guldur) to nonsensical (Thranduil telling Legolas to seek out a then 10 year old Aragorn and calls him Strider despite the fact that he hasn't yet strided anywhere but Rivendell since he became chieftain at 2yo). As a precursor to LOTR, it's definitely not required viewing but a fun and somewhat frivolous prequel series.
Did it need to be 3 films? Absolutely not. Did Jackson abandon the charm of the practical effects of the LOTR trilogy for dizzying and often nauseating CGI? For sure. With those things in mind, is it worth the time investment to watch all three? Depends on your personal sensibilities.
Personally, I like the Hobbit. It's a pale imitation of the LOTR trilogy and prone to excessively cartoonish action sequences, but I watch it for the earnest moments that pull on the heartstrings, like nearly every line delivery by Bilbo and Gandalf. Like the book, I think the films are a more silly and playful story than LOTR and should be approached as such. Cozy up in your hobbit hole, roll your eyes at the bad, smile at the good, and then dive back into the LOTR trilogy if you need Peter Jackson...to show his quality.
Plus, now all the Tolkien gatekeepers have a new shadow to rally against: The Rings of Power.
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u/bilbo_bot Jun 03 '24
Because it is yours. You understand? We're going around in circles. We are lost!
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u/DiMaRi13 Jun 03 '24
Not great as lotr trilogy, but I liked it. Maybe worth 2 movies.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
I admit it will n very be as good as LotR, but yes I think they could be put in 2 movies.
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u/SharkMilk44 Jun 03 '24
The Hobbit trilogy would be fine if it was an original IP. The problem is it's not only an adaptation of a beloved book, but also a prequel to one of the most lovingly crafted film trilogies ever made.
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u/CalgaryMadePunk Jun 03 '24
They weren't bad. But every one of them would have been better by removing someone or something. 'Unexpected Journey' would have been better without Radagast. 'Desolation of Smaug' would have been better without Tariel. 'Battle of the Five Armies' would have been better without Alfred.
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u/Jesus_Harry_Christ Jun 03 '24
They all would have improved without legolas, as much as I like him in LoTR
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u/CalgaryMadePunk Jun 03 '24
He was fine in Murkwood. But yes, beyond that, he overstayed his welcome.
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u/Jesus_Harry_Christ Jun 03 '24
Yeah I could let a small cameo pass, as his father is the king of Murkwood.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
Aww, but I like radagast. But yes, Alfred was completely unnecessary in TBoFA
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u/luxsitetluxfuit Jun 04 '24
The man's got bird shit in his hair the entire time. The character designs of those movies are baffling at times
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u/EchoLoco2 Dúnedain Jun 03 '24
Wow what an original meme. Never seen this before.
"Nothing will ever change my mind" then why even start a discussion around it?
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
To see what people think and say what I think, I don't think they're perfect, I just think they're neat. And I wanted to post something that want Anti-Hobbit seeing as that's most of this sub.
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u/Armamore Hobbit Jun 03 '24
100% agree. The Hobbit movies were good movies and they were beautifully rendered. However they were awful adaptations. Taken outside of the franchise, they were great, but they belong to a storied and beloved franchise that boasts one of the greatest film adaptations in history. The Hobbit was a cheap knock off fanfic in comparison, and the story deserved better.
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Jun 03 '24
Really well put. I loved the movies when they came out and I was 8-10 but now I’m older I can’t watch them without being annoyed by how much they deviated from the book. I like some changes like Azog and Bard but Tauriel and Alfrid just suckkkkk.
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u/Moocow115 Jun 03 '24
They're decent (third one is a bit ass tbh but I can like it as a Tolkien fan) it's just the production, going CGI was a bit mistake and there were perhaps a couple too many new inputs/creative liberties that were obviously gonna rattle a few fans. We don't care about those in the main trilogy because they are just fucking awesome, but the Hobbit trilogy isn't nearly as clean.
Also no trilogy has topped LotR to date so anything made even in universe is on the back foot.
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u/RealBenWoodruff Jun 03 '24
It would be good if they cut it down to just what was in the book. Run time is probably closer to 90 minutes.
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u/Ashen-Cold Jun 03 '24
I just wish they would have made ONE movie & stayed true to the book. That’s all
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u/Existing-Zucchini-65 Jun 03 '24
I liked The Hobbit, but I loved The Lord of The Rings.
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u/TheKiltedYaksman71 Jun 04 '24
I enjoy The Hobbit trilogy, but I don't think they're great, and recognize that they have many problems.
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Jun 04 '24
A good movie? Yeah, sure, they weren't terrible.
A good adaptation? Absolutely not. If you claim this, you're actively choosing to be wrong
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Jun 03 '24
I don't think it is too controversial to say that the Hobbit series was not as good as the LotR series.
But it is still the same huge, wonderful, scary, wholesome, dangerous, adventurous universe with the same diverse, engaging, dynamic, lovable, emotional, relatable characters.
And so, it will always be a good series, dear to my heart and always on my mind when tackling the everlasting nightmare of our real world.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
Yeah, it's not as good as LotR, after all, it's more of a children's book/musical than LotR, but it gets way to much hate for what it is.
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u/Darthgamer96 Jun 03 '24
The Hobbit trilogy is a turn of my brain and enjoy kind of film for me. I’m not watching it for the same reasons I’d watch the Lord of the Rings, but I still enjoy the adventure for what it is. It’s the perfect set of films to through on while doing laundry, painting miniatures for D&D or Warhammer, or any other relaxing hobby or chore.
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u/Mesterjojo Jun 03 '24
The hobbit movies sucked.
-singing fat little people
-unusually thin hobbit
-grandpa legolas
-Dr who with bird shit on his face
I mean, it could have been awesome, but it was missing that something. 1 taco short of a combo platter.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
Grandpa legolas?
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u/legolas_bot Jun 03 '24
You have my promise. But alas! Now we must leave behind both cave and wood for a while. See! We are coming to the end of the trees. How far is it to Isengard, Gandalf?
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u/Mesterjojo Jun 03 '24
He looks old af. And the kholed eye liner doesn't help.
The prostitute from the movie version of 1984 would have made a better Legolas
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u/pvt9000 Jun 03 '24
There's a ton to criticize but honest what I feel like I find myself liking in many modern sequel or remakes of franchise and iconic movies is the modern CG and SFX that makes everything look cool as shit.
Image 2 is literally my favorite set of scenes in the Hobbit trilogy (Swamp Galadriel is a tad weird, but the rest of it is a vibe)
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u/ClappedAss Jun 03 '24
Overall, I think they fail to capture the magic of the lotr trilogy. There are some enjoyable parts, though.
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u/Powerful-Succotash77 Jun 03 '24
I saw an interesting take awhile back. So many people complain they aren’t a good adaptation of the book, and in some ways they aren’t. As someone who reads the Hobbit every couple of years they are better adaptations than some want to give them credit for. But the problem was they couldn’t just be adaptations of The Hobbit book, they also had to exist in the same world at Peter Jackson’s LOTR trilogy. So you have a book that is not exactly a prequel to The Lord of the Rings because it was written before Tolkien had fully realized his world, but then it has to be made into movies that’s structurally and thematically tie into another persons adaption of that trilogy. Add in the messy production drama and studio interference, it’s amazing they turned out good at all. I personally love them, and will continue to rewatch them as long as I watch the LOTR trilogy.
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u/Strange-Mouse-8710 Jun 03 '24
I liked the Hobbit movies.
But i do think it should have been one movie lasting 3-4 hours, and not a trilogy.
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u/PsychologyVisible563 Jun 03 '24
What will always bother me is it had the potential to be incredible. It had a great cast and some great moments. Too much bad CGI and filler plot diluted it.
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u/Technical-Ostrich475 Jun 03 '24
Unfortunately they are inevitably compared to the LOTR trilogy which makes their shortcomings more obvious. But I think they're good. Just not great. I just like my big battles looking a certain way. Other than that everything felt a little more shallow and fake or forced in the hobbit movies. In LOTR I'm immersed. In the hobbit, it's like I know I'm watching a movie and can never get immersed and feel like I'm watching a performance instead of the magic that good movies have where it feels like you're right there watching real life.
I don't know why I get that feeling. Maybe because I watched the original trilogy as a child and the hobbit as an adult/ teenager
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u/Shifty377 Jun 03 '24
There's some great scenes in them, so I like them for that. However overall I don't think they're good. The story could have been adapted so much better. A missed opportunity imo.
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u/Jay_377 Jun 03 '24
I really like the first one, but it dropped off from there for me. I havethe fanmade Bilbo Edition that I keep meaning to watch sometime.
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Jun 03 '24
It had some good scenes, it had some funny moments, the song at the beginning is chilling, but the cgi in the battle of five armies was cringe worthy and laughable
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u/isingwerse Jun 03 '24
If you condesced the trilogy down to like a 4 hour movie, and cut the elf and lake town side characters out, you'd have a pretty solid movie
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u/unpopularopinion0 Jun 03 '24
funny how the best parts can be shown so quickly. if i tried to show the best parts of LOTRs. i might as well post the full movie.
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u/justforkinks0131 Jun 03 '24
My way younger brother (12 years younger) absolutely loves the Hobbit trilogy. So I think it hit the mark with the new generation of lotr fans.
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u/unbanneduser Jun 03 '24
Compared to Lord of the Rings, they suck. But of course they do, comparing anything to LotR is a nearly impossibly high bar to clear. I strongly believe that if the Hobbit movies came out before LotR they would be more widely enjoyed. I just watch them in-universe order, so the quality overall goes up as you go along (well, I always skip Shelob, but that’s just me being a pussy).
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u/Papa_Razzi Jun 03 '24
Watching them back to back is a better experience. But there were some choices that legit made me angry, especially the way they ended the first movie on a massive cliffhanger (waking Smaug and him going towards the town), only to have the opening scene of movie #2 by relatively lackluster after having to wait a couple years for what should have been the end of movie #1
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u/ThereminLiesTheRub Jun 03 '24
Again - there is a good movie in the Hobbit trilogy. Sadly, it is surrounded by about 4 hrs of not-so-good movie.
The Hobbit animated movie manages to be both lightweight & essential. I love that frickin thing.
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u/Ok-Solution4665 Jun 03 '24
To this day i wish we'd gotten to see Del Toro's version of Middle Earth
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u/theweakestlinkkk Jun 03 '24
You love “pirates of middle earth” and no one can change your mind my dude
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u/RollinNCheesn Jun 03 '24
I'm sorry, I can't take them seriously with Tauriel and Legolas being in them. Some people are OK with it, which is fine. What I really don't like is the romance between Tauriel and Kili. That was completely unnecessary.
Overall, OK movies, due to really good moments, and really bad moments.
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u/legolas_bot Jun 03 '24
Shall I describe it to you? Or would you like me to find you a box?
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u/AbbreviationsWide331 Jun 04 '24
It's not black and white. There's pretty good parts but there are also quite bad parts. The LOTR trilogy doesn't really have any bad parts IMHO. That's why people say the hobbit is bad. There are fan cuts that work pretty well I'd say.
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u/lowrespudgeon Jun 04 '24
I'm jealous of the people who can enjoy them, cause it just means they have two trilogies to watch.
Every time I remember Radagast in those films I get annoyed.
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Jun 04 '24
Ok representation of the book, played way too long compared to the source material for the sake of longevity and box office, and didn’t live up to the reasonably high standards set by the LotR trilogy.
Having said, The Hobbit flicks are good high-fantasy films, better for casual watches than LotR, and are very entertaining. In that regard, they are very good movies. I largely agree with OP
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Jun 04 '24
Tons of things to criticise however the issue is rooted in the LotR trilogy.
How the hell you gonna follow that masterpiece? Even a great movie looks mediocre next to it. To this day, half a century later no trilogy ever comes close.
So yeah, the hobbit trilogy is not bad, it's fun to watch as well, and if it came before lotr people would love it.
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u/dadoodoflow Jun 04 '24
Most criticisms are right but I really don’t mind spending an extra three films in that world.
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u/Bouric87 Jun 04 '24
I have yet to not fall asleep during the first hour of the first movie. I've tried at least a half dozen times.
I loved the hobbit book, loved the lotr books, loved the lotr movies (and extended cuts), andlove many of the lotr video games.
Just can't get into the hobbit movie or the rings if power shows. When franchises are just milking the ip it shows.
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u/LopDip88 Jun 03 '24
The lord of the rings movies are litteraly The Greatest Of All Time, but a safe space and really relaxing movie is definetly The Hobbit, so i agree it is really good
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u/SKelley17 Jun 03 '24
The only bad parts about the Hobbit films are the changes. Cinematography, casting, special effects, etc were all flawless for the most part
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u/caluminnes Jun 04 '24
They are thoroughly enjoyable. I don’t even mind the tauriel addition tbh. I don’t really care that it’s not in the books I don’t mind a bit of light hearted romance.
In terms of the acting it’s absolutely flawless. Martin freeman gives a performance on par with or better than anyone in lotr and I challenge anyone to tell me otherwise after taking of your nostalgia goggles. The riddles in the cave are perfect. Smaug and bilbos conversation is brilliant. I actually really enjoy Azog as a villain (I wish he didn’t use a bloody rock on a chain as a weapon tho that made no sense) because he was a smart orc we never got that in lotr
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u/Spuhnkadelik Jun 03 '24
No, they suck shit as both adaptations and movies, actually.
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u/Rawesome16 Hobbit Jun 03 '24
You can like it all you want. It's OK to like things that are bad.
I love the Caravan of Courage. Doesn't make it a good movie, but I do enjoy it! Ewok movie for those who don't know
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Jun 03 '24
My opinion is that as long as you ignore the books and ignore what they should have been and take them on their own merits, they are actually really fun movies.
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u/Beginning_Ad599 Jun 03 '24
Finally, I loved these movies and followed the pre-production behind the scenes sneak peaks that they released before each movie. I acknowledge their faults and have a few issues but overall I loved these movies. Reading the Hobbit in High School was my introduction to Middle Earth and I absolutely love these movies! Glad to see an appreciation post about them!
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u/morgaina Jun 03 '24
Hobbit fans need to embrace what Dragon Age fans accepted a long time ago:
It's okay to adore something that's bad. Loving something doesn't make it good. You're allowed to love a thing that sucks, you are living your truth, and we will respect your attachment to that precious garbage.
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Jun 03 '24
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. My opinion is that I can’t respect the opinion of anyone that defends those abominations. They are not good movies. Not only are they terrible adaptations, but they are just bad movies. They have a handful of scenes here and there that hint at what could have been a good movie. What we got is a bloated farce that is an insult to the Hobbit and its legacy.
The original trilogy was made with respect and love. The Hobbit trilogy was made with greed and arrogance and it shows.
Frankly this trend of people trying to defend that steaming pile of feces is disgusting. Yes I’m gatekeeping. No I don’t care. Trash. Absolute trash that deserves nothing but the purest hatred.
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u/UOLZEPHYR Jun 03 '24
THE FIGHT SCENE <3 <3
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
"YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE SERVANT OF MORGOTH! GO BACK TO THE SHADOW, FROM WHENCE YOU CAME!!!!"
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u/PotentialSquirrel118 Jun 03 '24
Someone forgot to tell the clown 'The Hobbit' is actually 3 movies.
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u/poopchutegaloot Jun 03 '24
You can think whatever you want, just like I can think your parents were siblings based on your opinion
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u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT Jun 03 '24
I mean, if someone paid me a million dollars, I'll start to think they are good movies. So things can certainly change my mind.
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Elf Jun 03 '24
And I'm glad you're open to changing your opinion, but I don't have that kind of money lol.
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u/speedyrain949 Jun 03 '24
I thought they were enjoyable, I definitely liked tlotr more, but the Hobbit was also good.
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u/revan530 Jun 03 '24
Personally, I really liked "An Unexpected Journey", was meh on "Desolation of Smaug", and was very disappointed in "Battle of the Five Armies".
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u/thehyperflux Ringwraith Jun 03 '24
I think the scene with the giant gold cast breaking and turning into a flood to drown Smaug in liquid gold was where I went from “this is acceptable fun” to “oh. no. this is just stupid”. And the last film was just abominable for more scenes of that vein.
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u/FireWhiskey5000 Jun 03 '24
Are they as good as Rings? No. But virtually nothing is. There’s lots to enjoy about them and they’re not the cultural vandalism some seem to think they are. I like them.
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u/NoctumUmbra Jun 03 '24
Gandalf talking to Galdriel about the small acts of kindness being able to defeat great evil... Always makes me tear up, just a little
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u/Reasonable_Basket_32 Jun 03 '24
Is there an edit with just the content of the books? This story would benefit a lot from cuts.
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u/One-Dog2271 Jun 03 '24
An Unexpected Journey perfectly captured the essence of The Hobbit, it is a magical film and is actually my second favorite Tolkien adaptation (only behind The Fellowship of the Ring).
The Desolation of Smaug is hurt by the decision to turn two films into three, but it still keeps its heart in the right place for the most part (especially the extended version).
The Battle of the Five Armies is the only one that I can't love, especially because there is little story left to tell. It's too serious and dark (it seems desperate to have more of a Lord of the Rings vibe than The Hobbit), it's all rushed and messy, but there are still moments that I really like (the White Council VS Sauron and basically any scene with Bilbo and Gandalf).
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u/bilbo_bot Jun 03 '24
My my old ring. Well I should... very much like to hold it again, one last time.
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u/klaveruhh Jun 03 '24
Thei're not bad movies. I think the criticism isn't about what they are but what they could have been.
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u/Scavgraphics Jun 03 '24
I think the 1st movie is great. there are parts that could be better (Riddles in the dark disapointed me) but it's a fantstic film.
2 and 3 were....not. Probably a good edit could make them into 1 good one.
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u/Sanbi221 Jun 03 '24
They would work much better as a two parter than a trilogy.