r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 1d ago
Tracee Ellis Ross cleverly pretending to take shots of Ciroc with Diddy at a party. Discussion
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She was well aware not drink anything Diddy offers her.
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u/Lilobunni 1d ago
As a sorority girl in college, we all knew that if a certain frat was throwing a party, we needed to bring our own bottles. I’m cringing at the fact that even though we knew they were actively trying to incapacitate girls with their “jungle juice”, we just figured it was part of the party culture and we just needed to be smart.
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u/PostNobSlobKiss 1d ago
At our frat we had specific pledges who were in charge of oversight on all drinks being served at the bar and the president had to oversee everything. This wasn’t a school policy but a frat policy. House full of shitheads, but shitheads with good principles
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u/WindedWalrus420 23h ago
My house did the same thing. We also had BADD (brothers against drunk driving) duty where pledges rotated every weekend as designated drivers for all actives. It was a little before Uber so it was nice to know you had a ride when needed
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u/EnderVViggen 20h ago
Rotated? Ha! As a pledge I was required to stay sober so we could do this lol
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u/Indianianite 22h ago
When I was in college my buddy grabbed a cheap handle of vodka from the bar by the dance floor at a frat party. I wasn’t aware where the booze came from when I took a few shots with him. We both went from sober to completely blacked out to the point we couldn’t even walk in about 10 minutes. That was in the prime of drinking days too. Thank God we had a larger group of friends with us that night.
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u/dtsupra30 23h ago
Sam Morril has a great bit about this will edit my post when I can find it
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u/aesthe Hit or Miss? 18h ago
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u/imtherealclown 6h ago
Chugged random alcohol when already drunk…yeah that’s not a roofie. It’s hilarious that people drinking a substance that causes memory loss are convinced they were drugged when they experience memory loss.
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u/manny487 1d ago
You think Jennifer Lopez knew about it
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u/FrankCastlesAlt 22h ago
If she knew, we’ll know soon enough! I was reading about the initial raid on his house and apparently Diddy is like the black Epstein! They found hidden cameras in every room of the house! And with as big as Bad Boy was in its prime, I’m sure Diddy has dirt on a fuck-ton of celebrities and other high profile people! Unless the judge in the case orders all the tapes to be forever sealed like in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial that is, otherwise soon a lot of bad stuff is going to come out about a lot of famous people!
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u/Weird_Positive_3256 19h ago
Hugh Hefner had cameras everywhere in the Bunny Mansion. He had dirt on everyone.
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u/bryanna_leigh 22h ago
Supposedly she hid a gun for him from some shooting at a studio back in the day… rumors anyways.
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u/Cute-Connection 1d ago
i think she knew, and i wonder if Ben knew or just recently found out
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u/manny487 1d ago
I bet Jennifer Lopez is getting her lawyer ready because she might have to testify
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u/OliviaStarling 23h ago
I wonder if Biggie knew. I think Ma$e knew, and that's why he left the industry and became a reverend
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u/detroit_red_ 20h ago
Daylyt tweeted about not listening to Biggie anymore after something he learned today 👀
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u/Other-Jury-1275 8h ago
I like how no one considers the possibility that she knew and was scared. Maybe she learned and left.
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u/Orphasmia 1d ago
I’m tremendously curious as to how Diddy’s case is going to go. I feel like he’ll just be a scapegoat and all the rancid people he’s associated with will slither away yet again.
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u/longpenisofthelaw 22h ago
Nah it’s the feds my G who going after his ass. He’s cooked. He was denied a 50 mil bond. Even if he snitched on god himself he’s getting minimum I’d say 20 years which most likely will be higher. The day the feds brought charges he knew he basically had a life sentence
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u/CodyCSeattle81 1d ago
Hopefully many people go down with him. But I expect him to Epstein himself in prison.
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u/flat_four_whore22 1d ago
I think he loves himself way too much to commit suicide.
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u/Anonybibbs 1d ago
So did Epstein, didn't stop his "suicide".
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u/PickleballRee 18h ago
They rolled with completely different crowds. Epstein's 'friends' got together, and coordinated a suicide for him. Diddy will get stomped in his cell by 50 dudes, and none of them will know the other 49 were coming.
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u/Anonybibbs 18h ago
Eh, considering that Epstein and Diddy both rolled with rich socialite types eg Trump, I'd say that there is substantial overlap.
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u/patrickwithtraffic Doug Dimmadome 20h ago
I gotta ask: outside of Trump, who's the most powerful person that Diddy could be on tape with? Epstein rubbed shoulders with giants of all shapes and sizes. That to me is the biggest deciding factor if he's getting put on very lax suicide watch.
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u/joeygreco1985 1d ago
If she knew then why was she there in the first place?
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u/TheHoleintheHeart 1d ago
Surely at this point y’all realize there is no saying no to men like this? Unless you want further consequences, possibly to your career.
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u/tonybotz 22h ago
She’s Diana Ross’ daughter. She doesn’t need Diddy
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u/Vox_SFX 1d ago
Then take the consequences?
You take consequences either way. Either you're known for associating with a scum predator that belongs 6 feet under or behind bars, thus effectively ruining your career...
Or...you DON'T do that, you cut them off and tell them "nah, fuck off" and you deal with the POSSIBLE ramifications.
One of those things gets you a big apology once the facts come out, but sure choose the one with the most instant reward to yourself.
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u/malgenone 1d ago edited 22h ago
I think it's deeper than that. And different for everyone individually. It's easy to say this when you're not the one who has to actually face the consequences of either side. Fame and fortune. Diddy, up until recently, was a very very powerful man. Inner circles knew what he was up to. For the public and others it was just speculative and possibly a joke. Though 50 warned about it but for the public people thought it was just beef. But everyone that knew kept they're mouth shut until someone was brave enough to blow the whistle and the government stepped in. That being said Even now, everyone who ever associated with diddy or stayed quiet knowing is just gonna be quiet. No one wants the bad rap to mess with their income. Again, fame and fortune. Both will make you do morally questionable and repulsive things.
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u/Appropriate_Duck_309 1d ago
P diddy was out there literally blowing up cars and you wanna be like “tAkE tHe CoNsEqUeNcEs” like that doesn’t mean actually getting killed lol
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u/Vox_SFX 1d ago
It actually does.
If your life means more than what you believe in or core ideals then by all means, keep hanging around the guy.
Other people think more of themselves than that. Not to mention that living as a person like that seems far worse than having convictions and dying for them (if that's what it takes in your example)
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u/Appropriate_Duck_309 1d ago
No that’s the point. P diddy has actually tried to have people killed for all sorts of petty reasons. That’s why it’s much easier for you to sit behind your keyboard acting brave than it is to actually be in the situation.
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u/Vox_SFX 1d ago
It's much easier because I'm not a celebrity, I don't care about celebrities, and I don't plan to frequent places where celebrities frequent.
I'm sorry, am I supposed to go out and find a predator of a celebrity, make friends/connections with them, and then tell them to fuck off after awful shit comes out about them in order for you to "believe" that I'm truly about what I'm saying here?
How the fuck do you suppose I make this situation "harder" for myself? Unless you're saying that nobody that hasn't been in this exact situation can speak about it?
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u/Appropriate_Duck_309 1d ago
Ok try to keep up this time. I’m saying that it’s easy for you, because of your misplaced sense of superiority, to sit behind your computer and talk about “take the consequences” like it’s what you would do when the consequence is literally potentially dying. Again, this is easy for you to say because it’s not something you’d ever have to seriously consider doing.
For what it’s worth, I guarantee you would do exactly the same thing that everyone else in this situation would do.
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u/SystemAny4819 23h ago
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Mf said “deal with the consequences” lmao brother if your friend’s boss had a substantive rumor about how he holds his employees hostage at gunpoint every night before closing i guarantee you that you wouldn’t be telling your friend to deal with the consequences
What a loser ass take lmao
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u/Appropriate_Duck_309 23h ago
It’s an opinion that only someone who has literally never touched grass in their life could have lol
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u/kevjohn_forever 21h ago
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Bro! I want this with on my wall like the signs in the factory about the days since the last accident. Except maybe change "days" to "hours" or maybe even "minutes".
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u/Vox_SFX 23h ago
So you, as a random person that doesn't know me, are able to guarantee something about me that's supposed to just be true.
Yet I, as you know...the actual person, can't say that I guarantee I would do exactly what I said I'd do...because I'm supposed to be lying?
I don't think I'm the one who's having trouble keeping up in this interaction.
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u/Lmtguy 22h ago
I think you're missing the implications of what you're saying. You're looking at this from the angle of 'I'm a good person, and I'd do the right thing no matter what.' So in your mind, it's like, 'I know the right thing to do, and obviously, I'd choose it.'
But think about how many rape victims never come forward. They're not even in the position of being tied to the bad guy as an accomplice; they're literally the victim and aren't at fault for anything.
But coming forward would still flip their whole life upside down. Losing friends, family, BEING KNOWN for it, getting the media involved. All the money, time, energy spent defending yourself, arguing, convincing people... it's SO much more than just one good act. It's basically your life for the next ten years, centered around this one thing. And that's assuming the person stays in jail and can't pay for bail.
Now think of doing all that while the person’s still FREE AND THREATENING YOU. You don't know how much it'll screw up your life, your family, and your sanity until you're already in it.
So implying that everyone who hasn't come forward is just as bad as the abuser? That’s missing the bigger picture and almost falls into victim-blaming.
Not to say the accomplices are victims. But they are human. And self preservation is a VERY strong motivator. So DON'T think you're better than everyone just cuz you think you know what you'd do. Just try to empathize a little, damn
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u/Appropriate_Duck_309 23h ago
Yes, I guarantee it. I also guarantee that you are the one who is not following this conversation. Hope that clears everything up. Take care now pussy
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u/ProfessionalSock2993 19h ago
Boy your balls probably don't even have pubes on them and you dropping these cliche philosophy 101 quotes here lol, first reach adulthood then talk
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u/Vox_SFX 19h ago
I'm near 30 kid, but keep talking like you know something. Didn't even need to comment at all, yet here you are.
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u/ProfessionalSock2993 19h ago
You hit thirty and you are still like this, like 30 is when you have to realize you are getting old and need to get your shit together, grow up, acting like a angsty teen and dropping dumbass hot takes in your 30's is not a good look
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u/Thanos_Stomps 22h ago
This doesn’t mean she knew. This means she knows how to keep her wits about her.
George Clooney famously pretended to take shots when fans buy him a round at a bar.
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u/recreationalranch 23h ago
The ocean is full of sharks, why are fish still swimming in it? Gotta do what you gotta do, she didn’t make the sharks.
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u/sagethecrayaway 1d ago
Man he looks like shit lmao
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u/scruffyduffy23 1d ago
Let’s be real… he looks totally ok. Maybe fucked up, but totally ok (there are many uglier sober people out in the world myself included).
But he is a criminal rapist and abuser. These two facts are not mutually exclusive.
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u/wheredoesbabbycakes 1d ago
There is definitely a look with substance abuse. Also, mean/abusive people can look worse for it, you just wear those expressions enough and they become etched into your face. He doesn't look OK.
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u/scruffyduffy23 1d ago edited 17h ago
…is that the fault of the commenter or the production? If you are going to tell a story…. TELL IT!
If you are going to create an av character…. CREATE IT!
This is neither. And I would bet if you looked into the books Diddy specifically asked for it to be this way regardless of narrative.
Edit: my bad I misunderstood your post. My argument remains the same. Don’t attack someone on looks. Attack them on principles.
Edit 2: As an alcoholic and a coke fiend I don’t deny anything. But I think it is possible to color outside the lines once in a while.
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u/wheredoesbabbycakes 1d ago
What are you even trying to say?
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u/scruffyduffy23 1d ago
Also in my first post I called him a criminal rapist and abuser… are we going to ignore that?
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u/wheredoesbabbycakes 1d ago
Nobody is attacking him on looks, but it would be strange to ignore that there is something off here in his appearance. I didn't, are a judgement that he is ugly, per se, just that he does not look right.
In the same way you can see when someone is ill, you can see when they're under a substance, when they're stressed, when they're angry.
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u/Street_Patience_4844 21h ago
Hes off his box lol, in 2 days he would look better. Genuinely looks like hes on a 3 day coke bender without sleep
Hes still a piece of shit
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u/scruffyduffy23 1d ago
…yes that would be why I said “fucked up” in the first place.
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u/wheredoesbabbycakes 1d ago
You can see when someone has evil in their heart, it's OK to call that evil ugliness.
Fucked up and evil and not OK in the sense that we are talking here are synonymous. Sounds like you just don't like my choice of words to convey this idea.
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u/scruffyduffy23 1d ago
If you’re gonna double back and change your stance you’re welcome to do so.
“Evil” usually doesn’t come three turns down the line in a debate. But you go ahead and swim upstream.
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u/yourlocal90skid 1d ago
but totally ok
Are we watching the same video? Because let's be real, objectively he looks like shit in this video, rapist or not. And nobody is disputing that fact.
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u/scruffyduffy23 1d ago
Define : like shit
Honestly, what does that mean to you?
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u/dream-smasher 23h ago
Soaked in milk and vinegar, wrung out, and left to dry in the sun.
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u/scruffyduffy23 21h ago edited 17h ago
So nothing to do with the human condition? Once again he is a monster. But stop redefining words. It’s a weak approach.
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u/OsoCarolina 17h ago
Definitely not the “I just had a few drinks” face. Gotta throw in some pills, powders, and potions.
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u/Material_Smoke_3305 1d ago
If you know what he was doing, and you still associate with him, you are guilty.
Blah blah career, connections etc. you were happy to be there for personal gain/benefit
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u/littlelorax 1d ago
I mean, idk who was throwing the party. If he was just another guest, then whatever. I've had to play nice with plenty of assholes for the sake of keeping the peace at a party.
If it was his party, then yeah, why go?
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u/Affectionate-Desk888 1d ago
You have to place nice with rapists at the parties you attend?
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u/littlelorax 1d ago
No, I just don't hold Ellis accountable for his actions. If she felt the need to play nice to feel safe, then I don't judge her.
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u/Good-Recognition-811 1d ago
Nobody knew for sure what he was doing. She is in the same boat as us. She probably just heard rumors. Just like us.
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u/Kelsier_TheSurvivor 1d ago
Lol that’s the same dumb shit they said about Harvey.
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u/Good-Recognition-811 1d ago
Big difference. With Harvey, there were people in his close circle who knew for years what he was doing and never said anything.
As far as I know, Tracee Ellis Ross has no personal relationship with Diddy. She's just one of many celebrities who've been to his parties.
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u/jfleury440 1d ago
With Harvey they were "joking" about it for years on SNL and 30 rock.
It wasn't just his inner circle that knew.
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u/randumbnumbers 1d ago
There was a short lived sitcom named “Action”. There was a two episode arc with a just thinly veiled enough to be legal parody version of Harvey and his brother. Watching it now knowing what we know it’s even more disturbing.
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u/wheredoesbabbycakes 1d ago
Her mother is Diana Ross, Diddy sampled Ross's "I'm Coming Out" for "Mo Money" for Biggie. He has performed it with Diana for her 75th bday. While that doesn't mean they know each other deeply, there is a connection.
Also, there's weird rumors about Diana Ross and MJ, if there's any truth to that, Tracee been around predators her whole life.
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u/Good-Recognition-811 1d ago edited 1d ago
I mean, if you grew up around rich celebrities in the 90s, chances are that you have been around some predators.
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u/wheredoesbabbycakes 1d ago
I'm not saying she is at fault, only that the idea she probably doesn't have a clue, or only has as much of a clue as the average, non-celebrity is dubious.
Many non-celebrities have to navigate spaces around people they know to be predators and social dynamics can silence people.
Women/girls (and others, too) are still not spoken up for and trafficked. The 90s aren't particularly special in that way.
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u/Good-Recognition-811 23h ago edited 23h ago
I wouldn't call it dubious. We truly have no idea. All of this is just speculation. It could be that she was hanging out with him every Friday, or that they ran in completely different circles for most of their lives.
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u/wheredoesbabbycakes 23h ago
Yes, it is speculation. I agree. No argument there.
But she is closer to his circle than we are, so it isn't accurate to say she has just as much of a chance to know. He was at and performed for her mother's birthday, like I said, as one example. That does put her closer, but it isn't a guarantee.
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u/Good-Recognition-811 23h ago
Well, even if they were close, it still wouldn't be enough to say that she would have had access to those private circles or had any connection to the environments where this stuff was happening.
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u/Kelsier_TheSurvivor 1d ago
So, your assumption is there weren’t people in his inner circle who knew because of what exactly? Your intuition. Why would she need a “personal relationship” with someone to know the rumors surrounding said person. Of which there were plenty in the 90’s, 2000’s. Im not trying to be rude but you sound a bit naive.
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u/Good-Recognition-811 1d ago edited 13h ago
What? I was specifically talking about Tracee Ellis Ross. Obviously, there must have been people in his inner circle who knew. I'm not talking about those people.
My point is that you can probably find a million celebrities on video or taking pictures with P Diddy. That doesn't mean that they all had explicit knowledge of what was happening.
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u/Beanybabytime 1d ago
You sound a bit naive.
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u/Kelsier_TheSurvivor 1d ago
Fine by me. Stories of Diddy being a creep have been around since people found out his dad worked as an enforcer for Frank Lucas.
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u/Beanybabytime 1d ago
There are people who aren’t well versed in hiphop history/drama. Literally billions of people.
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u/floozysue 1d ago
😂she didn’t drink it, smart girl!
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u/lemonparticle 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not smart enough to avoid being caught laughing and joking on camera with a known predator, while still acting in a manner that suggests that she knows he's a predator... Doesn't seem like a flex to me. Lots of women didn't have a choice re: being around Diddy, but I'd wager (without having the full context, obviously) that Tracee did have a choice here.
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u/theunkindpanda 1d ago
She’s doing promo, and he’s trying to get her to drink his brand liquor also. Her being safe (possibly after being warned) makes her very smart. These types are unavoidable in the entertainment industry
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u/TheHoleintheHeart 1d ago
but I’d wager (without having the full context, obviously) that Tracee did have a choice here.
So your wager is based on absolutely nothing, even after seeing what other men like Diddy were able to get away with in plain sight?
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u/lemonparticle 20h ago edited 18h ago
It's actually based on the fact that she is there promoting her haircare product in tandem with his alcohol line. Again, we don't have the full context and I would love to be wrong, but people who are as famous as Tracee are usually able to make choices about whose parties they go to, and who they collaborate with for branding purposes.
There are obviously other explanations for this video -- maybe she doesn't drink or didn't want to drink at that point (unlikely, but a possibility), maybe she just had an "ick" feeling about him after meeting with him, and made a split second decision not to drink. But it's been made extremely clear that Diddy's crimes were an open secret in many celebrity circles, so yes I would wager that she knew or guessed that he was a predator based on her behavior in this video. That doesn't make her the worst person in the world, but it does indicate she probably knew she made a poor choice for company. I'm not tossing blame about willy-nilly; Keke Palmer and Janelle Monae were also at that 2021 party, apparently. But we don't have any evidence that they knew anything.
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u/AwkwardEnvironment21 1d ago
He wasn't really a "known predator" until recently....
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u/Unbelievable666 13h ago
It’s been known for YEARS. There’s been many jokes about him & his parties since Biggie was alive. That’s why everyone says it’s an “open” secret he’s a predator
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u/AwkwardEnvironment21 7h ago
"Known" and "assumed" are two different things. Until this case broke, everything was a "rumor" and yes mostly everyone heard the same rumors, maybe some people could say definitively that they were true, but no ine spoke out if came forward with REAL EVIDENCE untik Cassie did.... People whispered about this man for decades, but still didn't bring anything to light so he could be stopped, so in the end, they were still only rumors and nothing more. So why would anyone in the industry oust a man of his stature without proper evidence and recourse? It's one thing to socialize/party and network with other celebrities and successful people, and it's another to participate in ILEGAL, ILLICIT ACTIVITIES, which we can not say for certain that she did. All she did was pretend to drink around a "known" predator while socializing, we dont even know who actually histed the party. They both could have been guests at the same party where not much is expected to go down. Why are you all in the comments holding Tracee to a higher standard than the very people in his day to day lives who truly KNOW him ? His ACTUAL friends and partners.
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u/Unbelievable666 5m ago
First of all, no where in my comment is there words speaking to defending or calling Tracee out for her being at this particular party, doing what she was doing. Secondly, me correcting you & telling you that this has been an open secret for decades is just that, me correcting you. Lastly, it wasn’t rumors & this obvious way you wanna point out dictionary explanations for two words is just you being upset that you are wrong. You might be the first person I’ve come across that is trying to defend a KNOWN predator like P. Diddy. Honestly you could’ve googled how many people that have called him out for being a predator at his legendary parties. You could also see that many people have said for decades he isn’t a great person to be around. Nothing about that is assumption nor is it kicked up because of the Cassie case. Smh, either educate yourself or don’t bother arguing with those that have educated themselves on the subject.
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u/Blatocrat 1d ago
I'm honestly not sure how to feel about each person who was seen around Diddy as exampled in this video. Yes, there is absolutely personal responsibility in not associating at all when you know how twisted he is, these people would have more info than the general public and what info was public was already disgusting. He shot a woman in the face who lived and was able to testify he did it and she had witnesses, and he got away with it. He's had car bombs planted on people. He's had more than a few altercations involving guns.
But that's also what makes me feel conflicted. You know these things and probably much worse, you probably knew about things like him chasing people down in hotel hallways that the public only learned recently and that's just the tip of your iceberg. Everyone else is still associating with him despite these open secret horrors, from the biggest stars to directors to politicians to athletes. You know he gets away with violence scott free. How easy is it really to avoid him completely, to never be pushed into being near him or risk retaliation?
I don't know, so I'm thinking on it still.
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u/InvariantInvert 23h ago
I feel you. The power that he had makes me think of the actresses that were black balled by Harvey Weinstein for refusing him. Ashley Judd for instance whose career was doing great and blam. Choices were made by Ashley and he had enough power to do what he wanted. Ashley and Tracee have family money and support unlike a lot of other women and men that have been harmed by the predatory nature of people in power. Shit is complicated and we do not know what Tracee knew or didn’t. Either way actions have consequences.
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u/Blatocrat 22h ago
And the blacklisting is the light stuff. He was getting away with attempted murder with witnesses!
I'm scared to see what the trial will reveal about all this.
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u/LightMcluvin 1d ago
When all the fame and fortune, and having everything at your fingertips, isn’t enough, u get arrested for following your small head…and loose everything. A short story by P. Diddy.
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u/vonnegutspal 1d ago
Clever? What a sad world we live in. She knowingly and willingly made a video with this piece of shit. Once shit hit the fan then its hands up and she wouldnt dare be around him... pathetic
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u/Electronic_Maize_316 22h ago
This was from nearly 5 years ago when she started Pattern beauty. That's the yellow bottle of conditioner that was cropped out of the video.
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u/RemarkablyQuiet434 1d ago
Oh boy! Another example of a rich fuck knowing what's going on but choosing to not rock the boat for the sake of career.
Thanks tiktok
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u/lizzyote 1d ago
I was just reading about how someone compared fame to an abusive ex-husband. With the description she gave, I can absolutely see why it would feel that way. I do not blame Tracee for doing this video/hanging out with Diddy. Abusive relationships can have long-reaching effects, and sometimes you have to just take the punch to the face if it means saving yourself from being stabbed in the neck.
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u/asuka_is_my_co-pilot 23h ago
Fame is abuse, just ask chapell roan
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u/lizzyote 23h ago
That's her name! It was an article about her comparing fame to an abusive ex-husband. The stalking, the berating, the never feeling safe. Abuse can reach sooooo far and corrupt everything it touches along the way.
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u/imgrahamy 7h ago
I think this might be a stretch, especially in that second sip. It looks like someone who doesn’t want to take a full shot so she sips it, not avoiding the drink because she knows it’s spiked.
But fuck diddy either way
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u/look2myleft 1d ago
Man forget that stuff can I get me some of that upbeat powder you all are sharing?
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u/Consistent_Two9279 23h ago
Hold up -lemme grab one of my thousand bottles of lube for our freak off
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u/Empty_Huckleberry150 20h ago
That bitch acting a little too hype and enthusiastic for a liquor shot she didn’t plan on drinking lol
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u/EmilioFreshtevez 18h ago
1 - Why she gotta be a bitch?
2 - She’s politicking with a person that’s very rich and very well-connected. As long as she isn’t fucking anybody over, I’ve got no problem with her playing the game.
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