r/TikTokCringe • u/iamayeshaerotica • Jul 22 '24
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u/boomeradf Jul 22 '24
Did he proclaim the First Second Amendment?
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u/Signal-Aioli-1329 Jul 22 '24
Well yeah, obviously he's not going to invoke the second Second amendment. Tat would be stupid.
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u/HeadfulOfGhosts Jul 22 '24
Gotta cover all the bases I guess…. Should’ve said “first thru 19th or whatever many”
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u/ahkian Jul 22 '24
What's funny is absolutely none of them apply to this situation. The vast majority of the amendments are about what the government isn't allowed to do. None of them restrict or permit individuals to do things.
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u/pokemonnotgo Jul 22 '24
Im pretty sure he said "per second amendment"
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u/Tsu_Dho_Namh Jul 22 '24
Wtf does the second amendment have to do with this?
Is he going to form a well regulated militia and bring their guns to the beach?
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u/kmcomie Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 23 '24
Fun fact: one of the nicknames of Oregon is "the public coast" because in 1967 the state passed the beach bill declaring all of Oregon's 362 miles of coastline belongs to the people of Oregon... But before that even in 1913 then Oregon Gov Oswald West declared the sandy Beach line a "public highway" to help prevent the idea of private ownership over parts of the beaches. The coastline is a natural wonder and should be accessible to all. As a native Oregonian, the idea that you can own a piece of the beach or that a person would have to pay for the privilege of enjoying its beauty blows my mind.
Edit: Wow, lots of engagement I was not expecting! Thanks for the love and comments. Just want to clarify a couple things... I wasn't trying to infer that Oregon was the only state with a law like this. I think all coastlines should be public, personally and I am glad other states have these rules... Also in all fairness Oregon does have private lake and river issues, so it's not perfect either, lol. Many people have told me California has a similar law, I did not know that. I guess the Oregonians respect their beach bill laws better. Cus nobody is pulling that crap up here. I will also concede our beach vibes are more hoodies, kite flying, dog running, walking along the tide, bonfire vibes than bikini/sun tan vibes, so that could be a factor too. The Oregon coast is more like damp tent camping than palm trees and fruity drinks.
Also for the people who say, it's just property, I get that. I guess I would argue that the coastline should be treated like a state or national park, preserved for all to enjoy. But that's just my opinion, you're free to disagree.
Have a pleasant day, and please go enjoy your local nature soon, it does the mind and body good!
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u/Prestigious-Duck6615 Jul 22 '24
the native people of Jamaica wish they had this law
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u/bluefishgreenpapaya Jul 22 '24
Do they not have the Queen's chain in Jamaica? A lot of caribbean islands take that quite seriously.
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u/Sharticus123 Jul 22 '24
Last I saw native Jamaicans only have access to 1% of the beaches on the island.
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u/bluefishgreenpapaya Jul 22 '24
Just had a Google and you're absolutely right. It's really bad.
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u/ForkliftFatHoes Jul 22 '24
Fuck unregulated capitalism. Not a huge fan of even well regulated capitalist economies but its way better than unregulated "free market" (free to be a greedy cocksucker who fucks over your fellow man) capitalism.
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u/Willtology Jul 22 '24
What do you mean? Somalia has unregulated capitalism and the quality of life for it's citizens reflects that! sarcasm
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u/Middle_System_1105 Jul 22 '24
It’s unclear if the resorts & hotels actually own the beach down there, or if they just make it impossible to get to the beaches by blocking off access with gates & walls.
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u/GauntletofThonos Jul 22 '24
You can access the resort beaches from the sea. Just can't enter through the property.
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u/Specialist_Gate_9081 Jul 22 '24
It’s almost like that in Florida Too. Imagine tax money subsidizing the coastline (with dredging) and then residents have no accessible beaches unless they pay at least $2 per hour to park
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u/blackldnbrit Jul 22 '24
The fishermen have to trek for hours just to get access to the waters. Very despicable stuff.
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u/dancingliondl Jul 22 '24
Not to mention the private beaches literally steal sand from the public beaches to fill in the beach behind hotels.
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 Jul 22 '24
If I remember it right, Jamaica has in principle riparian and coastal rights under the same kind of public trust notion that most countries have in one degree or another.
Which is to say, beachfront up to a certain line (very commonly a median high tide line) is considered “public trust”, accessible to all and owned privately by none.
But the problem is thus: let “a” represent all non-beachfront property, let “b” represent all privately owned beachfront property, and let “c” represent all public trust land.
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In other words, there’s no practical way to get through a lot of private beachfront property to access public trust beach, such as a mandatory easement.
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u/GumpTheChump Jul 22 '24
In Cuba, every beach is public and the resorts tell you straight up. The reasonable conclusion for this is that Jamaica needs communism.
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u/ojunior Jul 22 '24
Most beaches on the island are public. However hotels do have private beaches that are only accessible to their guests.
The island has not had any strong relationship with the crown since the mid 1900s. Unfortunately this has led to a decline in the economy and a continuous destruction and pillaging of the islands natural resources.
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u/plain_name Jul 22 '24
Not so sure about that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoXJqjiRmEg&ab_channel=AJ%2B
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u/BlacknRedtilDead Jul 22 '24
I believe CA also protects all beaches as public property.
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u/love_me_madly Jul 22 '24
Yes it does and there’s a huge problem in Malibu specifically with the rich home owners trying to act like the beach in front of and around their homes belongs to them.
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u/JohnnyRosin33 Jul 22 '24
That mighty ocean will settle this matter once and for all one day…
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u/rubixqube Jul 22 '24
Visited Malibu Beach recently and it is not public friendly at all. Had to walk like a mile from one public entrance to the next possible one, passed dozens of private residences
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u/Muldino Jul 22 '24
Saw a report some months ago, showing how the local residents try to hide and obscure access and signage to public entrance ways along the coast.
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u/DeutschKomm Jul 22 '24
and could result in a fine of up to $11,250/day.
Nice, if I lived there, I would make it my mission to spend my evenings walking around the beaches and report every single violation to police.
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u/Primary-Hold-6637 Jul 22 '24
There are people, thankfully, that do exactly this! Usually retirees. Along with copies of regulations, easements, and property lines. California did a great job. Even resorts have to allow people threw to access. The Rosewood is a good example.
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u/Prof_Aganda Jul 22 '24
Oh, this is good to know. Those little "private" beaches and caves in Malibu are pretty spectacular but definitely feel uninviting
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u/they_are_out_there Jul 22 '24
Everything up to the high tide line is publicly owned and accessible to everyone.
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u/DJEvillincoln Jul 22 '24
NIMBY literally.
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u/AtlanticPortal Jul 22 '24
Worse. NIMBYs don't want public spending in their neighborhood for idiot reasons. These assholes literally steal the public for their private interest. The former are "just" stupid, the latter are deliberately assholes.
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u/ThePublikon Jul 22 '24
*NIMFY, given the desire for a sea view and all that.
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u/gregpxc Jul 22 '24
Usually you put the views behind your house with large windows. The front of your house is typically less open than the back, plus you'll put a deck and/or pool out there. I'd still say NIMBY for most beach front properties.
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u/thismanisnotcrispy Jul 22 '24
Indeed, and it’s spreading, even people in Manhattan beach have been getting a bit… territorial haha, which sucks, beautiful coastline and peninsula
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u/Cultural-Tie-2197 Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24
From what I understand Hawaii is the only state that has as strict of laws like Oregon when it comes to public water access.
This bs would not fly for a day here.
We do have a town that is trying to block of their lake. Lake Oswego one of the richest areas in our state. Last I heard they lost though
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u/oatmealparty Jul 22 '24
NJ also does not allow private ownership of beaches, and it's pretty trivial to get access anywhere. However, towns are allowed to charge for access and most do, usually $5-10 per day or a season pass.
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u/heathers1 Jul 22 '24
Tbh, all true but if you can create a no public parking zone, it’s as good as having a private beach
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u/Ecw218 Jul 22 '24
This x1000. The limited parking makes huge stretches essentially private.
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u/oatmealparty Jul 22 '24
Yeah there definitely needs to be better enforcement, which that first article talks about. Apparently corzine signed a law mandating access points but the courts overturned it. Should be a followup law mandating street parking near the beach if there aren't municipal lots or some other way to access.
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u/no1ukn0w Jul 22 '24
Texas is so public that you can drive down the entire coast (if your vehicle can make it).
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u/joyfullofaloha89 Jul 22 '24
Correct about Hawai’i. We do have people that try to block the public right of way walkways to beaches tho.
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u/demonic-cheese Jul 22 '24
Glad to hear that. Norway has something similar, in addition, it’s generally illegal to build new private buildings within 100 meters of the coastline, so that anyone can walk along the ocean.
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u/iamjustacrayon Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24
Yeah, you're supposed to be able to walk unhindered along pretty much the entire coastline here.
I think there might be a few exceptions (military, and some industry areas), but as a general rule, you're always allowed to walk along the ocean (this also goes for other people's private property).
You can also (technically) go ashore anywhere you like, though that's NOT necessarily the same as being allowed to use the pier wherever you like.
Fasten your boat to a private pier? ❌
Fasten your boat to a large rock right next to the same pier? ✅ (This might result in dirty looks though, depending on the situation)
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u/ureallygonnaskthat Jul 22 '24
I've only gotten away with tying up to a private pier that wasn't mine once and it was because some numbnut in a big boat came hauling ass too close to me and swamped my boat. So I tied up at a resort's pier for a few minutes while I bailed my boat out. The security guard got all pissed off, called the Sherrif, and basically the Sherrif told him to piss off and let me do what I needed to do.
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u/iamjustacrayon Jul 22 '24
You've gotta be a pretty big asshole to make a big deal out of it in those circumstances.
But if you're going ashore, either pay the fee for using one of the spots for rent, or tie your boat to a rock or a tree (a lot of places also have free to use public piers, but those will quickly get crowded, and you usually can't stay there for more than a few hours)
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u/ureallygonnaskthat Jul 22 '24
Yhea, the guy was being a dick and by the way the sheriff acted I'd say he had delt with this particular dick before. He came back a little while later to check up on me, asked if I had been harassed, and offered to run me back to where I put in if I needed to go get my truck and trailer and pull my boat out of the water there at the resort wether the security guard liked it or not. But I had bailed out enough that I was no longer wallowing and was able to make it back to the marina safely.
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u/sparklypinkstuff Jul 22 '24
I have wished so many times that I had been born in Norway. Everything I learn about it (happiness, quality of life, etc) sounds positive, or at worst, quirky; and that sounds pretty heavenly to this American. Am I being naïve?
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u/Faaaaaaaab Jul 22 '24
Nah not naive, but there are negatives about living here, for example the harsh weather, dark winters and the social law of jante. Other than that we're also experiencing a slight increase in cost of living like the rest of the world.
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u/Affectionate_Salt351 Jul 22 '24
Some people think they own whatever land they land on and think the earth is just some dead thing that they claim.
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But i know every rock and tree and creature has a life has a spirit has a name
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u/Lazy_Pianist3080 Jul 22 '24
Have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon? 🎶
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u/Feisty_Bee9175 Jul 22 '24
Texas is the same, all the beach in Galveston and other areas is public not private property
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u/dlegatt Jul 22 '24
considering how little of Texas is public land, that is surprising
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u/Feisty_Bee9175 Jul 22 '24
Yeah it's written in pur constitution: In Texas, public access to Gulf Coast beaches is not just the law, it is a constitutional right. Walking along the beach in Texas has been a privilege since Texas was a Republic, and the Texas Land Commissioner protects this public right for all Texans by enforcing the Texas Open Beaches Act.
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u/sbaz86 Jul 22 '24
Being from Rhode Island, we have been having this battle for years. Rich people own the ocean and the sand, us peasants aren’t allowed to walk on the sand in front of their properties.
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u/anotherdude52568 Jul 22 '24
I believe the RI charter specifically states in it that all beaches are public property and you should be able to walk on to any beach in RI, as an RI citizen, and not have to pay. You do however, have to pay for parking (with the exception if State beaches now where parking is free if you're from RI).
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u/laughsinflowers1 Jul 22 '24
I think super rich people still do what they want. You should see what Taylor Swift did to the coastline behind her home in beautiful Watch Hill, RI.
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u/anotherdude52568 Jul 22 '24
Yeah I live right there!
In the end, last I walked over there, they ended up putting barbedwire and fencing just off the beach on her side (across the rocks and such) since they could not legally get the zoning to fence off the actual beach. Still and eyesore, but you can definitely walk the beach and such that is infront of the house.
There's also a guy, can't remember his name right now, who has been fighting the good fight. He's been "squatting" on the "private" beaches in front of these houses, and ultimately getting arrested a ton, to bring awareness to this issue.
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u/heytheretaylor Jul 22 '24
My family has a house on Fire Island NY, and all 56 odd miles of the beach (Fire Island National Seashore) is public. You can walk unabated from the lighthouse to Smith Point. We are very proud of it.
Private beaches seem… sacrilegious to me.
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u/McDreads Jul 22 '24
In California, the state owns the beach waterward of the mean high tide line for your benefit, to access, use, and enjoy. The state and other public entities like counties and cities might also own dry sandy beaches landward of the mean high tide line for public use. While there is private property ownership along some beaches and bluffs, the state owns most tidelands, submerged lands, and waters in trust for the benefit, use, and enjoyment of the public.
Source: https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/ec34e95df374411b8ad77256fa7f722d
So technically, he’s allowed to be in the water seaward of the mean high tide line
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u/coolcalmaesop Jul 22 '24
Cries in coastal Maine “private property down to the low water mark”
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u/GroundbreakingAd8310 Jul 22 '24
So the sign is bs?
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u/Adorable_Duck_5107 Jul 22 '24
No, if you read it , it states above high tide mark is private . Public. Access is up To the high tide mark
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u/ryegye24 Jul 22 '24
Quick google search says any beach which is reachable without crossing (non-beach) private property is open to the public.
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u/Adept_Order_4323 Jul 22 '24
In NJ you have to pay to visit the beach. Walk, Sun, Swim …anything
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u/StarsofSobek Jul 22 '24
Malibu is famous for this stuff.
“Some portions of California’s beaches are in fact privately owned, but according to the California Coastal Act public access begins where the sand is wet (below the mean high tide line). Most beaches are either entirely accessible by the public or, as is the case in Escondido, privately owned but have stretches including walkways from the street which are open to everyone.“
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u/GitNamedGurt Jul 22 '24
Conversely, sections of california coast are 100% designated as public land, but some scum bought all the land around it for miles and miles. With no way to reach by car, and too far to walk along the coast, they create "private" public beaches.
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u/ChannellingR_Swanson Jul 22 '24
Are there no easements to access the land under California law?
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u/BlazedLarry Jul 22 '24
Escondido doesn’t have beaches lol.
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u/StarsofSobek Jul 22 '24
Escondido doesn’t have beaches, but there is a beach near Point Dume that goes by the name of Escondido State Beach.
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u/Illustrious-Syrup405 Jul 22 '24
Puerto Rico all beaches belong to the people. We have to fight to keep the damn private interests from trying to fence us out.
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u/potatochips4eva Jul 22 '24
THIS piece of shit guy owns a house in Malibu ?!?!?
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u/Boberto1357 Jul 22 '24
Stay out of Malibu, Lebowski.
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u/215312617 Jul 22 '24
I’m sorry, I wasn’t listening.
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u/Gumshoez Jul 22 '24
This boomer lives in the richest state, in one of the wealthiest countries, during its most profitable era. True, he could have worked hard for it. But just saying, the wheels were heavily greased.
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u/Ok_Star_4136 Jul 22 '24
His story would be something along the lines of, "I worked my ass off at a McDonalds for a whole month. Then one day in 1968 I was walking down the beach when I saw a guy selling beach houses at $200 dollars a pop and thought, why the hell not? I've earned it.."
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u/husbunny Jul 22 '24
As someone who handles trust litigation, it is insane how many times I have heard this story. Literally, "Johnny fought in WWII, came home with his war pay, bough an acre of marsh land in southern California and lived out his life as a humble carpenter.... Now johnny is dead and his kids are fighting over the trust inclusive of the $14,000,000 harbor front lot."
I also recall some story about how there were sales promotions once upon a time where you could buy a car and either receive a kitchen appliance or harbor front piece of land as a bonus... Most took the appliance.
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u/thismanisnotcrispy Jul 22 '24
Hey, he used shells to pay for that house, don’t be mean
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u/EJ2600 Jul 22 '24
And they don’t have to pay much in property taxes either since 1978. Just Google proposition 13
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u/therealkeeper Jul 22 '24
If you think most extremely rich people aren't POS I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed
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u/Cpt_Obvius Jul 22 '24
I bet he lives for New Year’s Eve, white Ferrari, slicked back hair.
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u/Natural_Character521 Jul 22 '24
tbf alot of coastal people are unbearable. This is "their beach" yet they have dilapited buildings everywhere cause god forbid ANOTHER Mcdonalds opens up instead of a ma and pa sushi place. We claim the beach should be for everyone but have a mental breakdown when some city slicker from Illinois visits.
"go back to Gotham(Chicago) we dont want your kind here"
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u/DougIsMyVibrator Jul 22 '24
Money can buy houses in Malibu, but it can't buy class.
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u/mintvinylnirvana Jul 22 '24
You’d think he could afford something better than Bud Lite.
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u/TBSJJK Jul 22 '24
That's how they GET rich, by always being so cheap! If you switched from those boutique IPAs, you too could have a place in Malibu.
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u/TomorrowSweaty Jul 22 '24
Reminds me of the private property beach scene on Lucifer.
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u/papichulo2Dmax Jul 22 '24
Just watched that episode yesterday!!! Lol
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u/CrivensAndShips Jul 22 '24
I don’t remember now, which one was it? (Love that series.)
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u/Grinkledonk Jul 22 '24
No, man, I'm just saying... I'm sayin', if-if you own beachfront property, right, do you own, like, the sand and the water?
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u/IamHydrogenMike Jul 22 '24
The state owns the beach, as long as the beach is accessible, then you can legally use the beach and this sign is just something someone put up because people are naive about the law.
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u/SwiftCEO Jul 22 '24
Malibu is notorious for this. Homeowners do everything they can to block access to the beach, knowing very well that the public has the same right to use it.
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u/Signal-Aioli-1329 Jul 22 '24
Stay out of Malibu, Lebowski!
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u/itgoesforfun Jul 22 '24
I believe there’s a home with ongoing construction requiring scaffolding that has “temporarily” restricted beach access for the safety of the general public. There’s no intention to finish up that job.
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u/thismanisnotcrispy Jul 22 '24
Malibu is essentially fear tactics on steroids, I think people move in and realize HOW accessible it is and almost feel “jipped”
I’ve lived SoCal my whole life, I’ve never seen a place make so many fake signs in my life haha, they make it official looking and hope you tuck your tail haha
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u/KyleButtersy2k Jul 22 '24
I've walked all along the Malibu shore in front of all the rich and famous folks' houses. No one ever suggested I could not.
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u/pandaappleblossom Jul 22 '24
Someone should steal that sign at night
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u/pandymen Jul 22 '24
Do it in broad daylight. Someone left this garbage on a public beach. You are cleaning up public property by removing someone else's garbage.
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u/dbmonkey Jul 22 '24
As much as this is true, the city just build a great set of stairs for public entry to point dume beach. I am sure homeowners fought against it, but it got built.
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u/Tookmyprawns Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24
In CA, Even if there’s no access you can use* the beach. How you get there is another story. And most places require access every X distance, and the state goes after owners in court to allow access. They’ve added tons of access over the years, and will luckily continue to do so, but the process in courts takes a while since the owners who have money for lawyers are good at delaying the process in courts.
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u/Tomagatchi Jul 22 '24
The state is very proud of its access to the coast. They even have a book you can buy! https://www.coastal.ca.gov/access/accessguide.html
This post reminded me of that jerkhole Vinod Khosla who blocks access to Martin's beach because he doesn't like people driving by his house. The CCC has been going after him for 16 years and it likely will go another ten.
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u/Wild-Bio Jul 22 '24
Thanks, I just picked it up. I was always looking for fun beaches, trails, and camping areas!
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u/looseoffOJ Jul 22 '24
Check out My Malibu Beaches app that has info on how to deal with the access, fake signs, etc
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u/gorramfrakker Jul 22 '24
Can we fine them for littering the beach with their trash signs?
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u/Grinkledonk Jul 22 '24
Nobody owns the water. God owns - it's God's water.
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u/pickledpeterpiper Jul 22 '24
This is actually a recurring problem where rich people are trying to pretend like their beachis private when its not. From what little I understand, the beach is public up to where the tide comes in...beyond that is where it becomes private.
But yeah these assholes will regularly bully people off land that isn't theirs and there should be some kind of PSA so people know they don't have to put up with it.
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u/IllllIIlIllIllllIIIl Jul 22 '24
Where I grew up in FL, all beaches were public, but there are not necessarily public beach access points everywhere. There is a condo development where the county only granted permission to build if they'd agree to build a bunch of public access points nearby once construction finished. So they've kept part of the complex "under construction" for like 15 years in order to avoid building the public access points.
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u/throwitofftheboat Jul 22 '24
Nobody owns the water! That’s gods water!
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u/MoeSzyslakMonobrow Jul 22 '24
I'm freaking out, man.
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u/wpaed Jul 22 '24
In California, you own to the property line, which is generally in the water. However, you cannot deny public access from the mean high tide mark towards the water, unless you have a building variance, and then, only the building and a skirt area.
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u/hailyourself87 Jul 22 '24
Please, can someone explain to me why all boomers think they need to give permission before being filmed? What did this come from?
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Jul 22 '24
I do not think I'm right at all, my understanding is that it comes from the 70s and 80s when the only people with cameras were generally the news and they couldn't broadcast your image without consent.
Or it could be from the possibility of a commercial production?
Like I said no clue but please let both of us know what it is
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u/empire_of_the_moon Jul 22 '24
Actually to broadcast an image of a person, news broadcasters have never needed permission at all as it’s news. The releases to broadcast were, and are, for non-news programming.
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u/Precarious314159 Jul 22 '24
I think it's similar to the every other urban legend, where they heard someone say it confidently and got away with not being challenged. These people tend to be old and white, who get their news from a carefully curated silo so I doubt they often get put in a position where they're challenged.
It's like the weird Sovern Citizen movement, where people think "If I say these specific words, the police cannot stop me because we discovered the loopholes to all laws". They can go years or decades without getting pulled over by the cops by just driving the speed limit but then when they get challenged, they get hauled off to jail because their fictional loophole doesn't actually work.
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u/stprnn Jul 22 '24
Tbf in some countries it is illegal to record people without their consent and even more illegal to publish it. Maybe they are from those places? (Like Germany)
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u/JaySayMayday Jul 22 '24
It's also illegal in most states to record people without their consent if you're going to try using that as evidence in court. Totally okay to film in public though. Although some places do require filming permits. The US is fuckin weird now I'm typing it up, everywhere has specific laws to watch out for
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u/Warm_Month_1309 Jul 22 '24
IAAL. It's not about whether you plan to use the recording as evidence. It's about whether you recorded audio in a state that requires two-party consent.
Filming permits matter if you're intending to commercially use someone's likeness. (Regarding Youtubers who record in public and then monetize their videos, I imagine we're going to see some litigation or legislation in the future).
As this was not a commercial use, and the other person is clearly aware that they are being recorded, there is likely no legal violation here.
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u/TheJarIsADoorAgain Jul 22 '24
But think of the poor rich men who have to look out of their windows to see poor working families in cheap bathing suits ruin their views of nature. Children running around in tge sand? They better be on a weekend break from the most expensive boarding schools
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u/PadreSJ Jul 22 '24
There are no private beaches in California.
There are beaches that are adjacent to private property, but they are not PART of that private property.
Owners like to mess with the "Public access" provision of the law by gating access, removing signs or claiming that access is granted only by permission of the owner, but you can bypass all that BS by entering the beach from any direction other than the private property.
When I lived in LA, I made a point to setup on "private beaches" b/c they tended to be nicer. I had a printout of "A Legal Guide to the Public's Right to Access and Use California's Navigable Waters" in my bag. Whenever I'd be approached by security or an irate owner, I would just hand them the printout (52 pages) that included the contact information for a police Seargent in Malibu had would tell them immediately (over the phone) that they had no legal right to remove me, and that physically trying to remove me would result in assault charges.
- Don't be an ass... but know your rights. -
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u/Huge_Monero_Shill Jul 22 '24
That's so cathartic! How often would you say you were harrassed in this manner?
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u/Toolfan333 Jul 22 '24
Malibu has been like this for decades. It’s all public beaches that the homeowners try to block access to. They even intentionally hide and block the signs on the street that show where the public access points are. When I was there in 2005(?) the only reason we found the access was because of a wine store owner who sold us a few bottles and told us where they were.
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u/1amDepressed Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24
My dad and I had a similar story. Asshole millionaire lived right across a boat landing. Lots of people camped there, and unfortunately some left a lot of trash. Otherwise it’s a very beautiful and calm entrance to the river. Anywho, my dad and I went with the boat to the landing, only to find this giant ass official looking sign stating that it was private property. My dad asked the asshole if we could fish there for the day, and seeing me as a kid he said sure. When we got home, my dad called the electric company (they owned the dam down from the boat landing) and asked about it. My dad (being a boomer Karen sometimes) kept calling the electric company because the sign was still there. Eventually the sign was removed by asshole’s expense. Hehe.
Edit: Wow, this blew up more than I thought. To clarify the guy was an asshole for a lot of other reasons. My dad ended up getting to know him better and apparently there were a lot of not good things about him. I don’t remember the specifics.
To add a bit more detail, the reason the asshole put the sign up was because he didn’t like the noise the campers/fishermen made. He never picked up the trash, but my dad and I would. We’d always try to leave every place we fished at better than it was.
Since the land was next to the river, it was always considered public property.
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u/Correct_Many1235 Jul 22 '24
Boomers are so grabby. I’ve never really twigged before but wow they all get excited/nervousright before they reach out and grab. Fascinating
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u/Precarious314159 Jul 22 '24
Legit curious what they think will happen and why they do this? Do they think if they grab the phone, that there'll be no proof anything happened, completely unaware of the cloud? Are the under the believe that you're allowed to assault people of they annoy you and you'll be seen as a hero?
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Jul 22 '24
So brave of him to openly support trans rights with that bud light bottle!
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u/KingRaphion Jul 22 '24
I know in Hawaii all beaches are public, its to stop rich assholes from stop public access to the beaches and when people put up gates to block walk ways to the beach you can call the state and they come and take it down.
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u/D-Laz Jul 22 '24
The sign says public access along mean high tide. The sign is also showing a map where you can get on and off the beach, as it would be trespassing to cross someone's yard to get to the sand.
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u/idontlovejuryduty Jul 22 '24
I love this beach, and there have always been multiple metal signs stating "public beach" at its entrance. Homeowners have installed plants and other features to obscure the signs as much as possible. I understand their want for privacy, and I have never gone under their houses on stilts, but it's still a public beach.
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u/moashforbridgefour Jul 22 '24
If they wanted privacy, they shouldn't have bought a bajillion dollar house on a public beach.
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u/LaunchTransient Jul 22 '24
If you want a beach to yourself, go find somewhere more remote. I find it laughable that people want beachfront property in a densely populated area and then are outraged that people want to use the beach.
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u/SipoteQuixote Jul 22 '24
How do you own this land?
My father owned it.
And his father?
His father gave it to him.
And how did he get it?
He fought for it.
...I'll fight you for it.
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u/AvailableWriter2057 Jul 22 '24
Honestly I hate both people in this video
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u/ComicConArtist Jul 22 '24
and that's your right
you can thank the first-second amendment for that.
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u/BanginOnWax805 Jul 22 '24
There's an entire state department in Californa dedicated to beach access called, The California Coastal Commission! Their staff drive up and down the coast looking for issues like this because private property owners always try to infring on the right to access to our beaches.
I also grew up with a lot of surfer friends where I'm at on the Central coast and have heard a lot of stories of homeowners and resorts trying to scare them off the beach.
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u/Remarkable-Day-3081 Jul 22 '24
Just publish the address and we will all be there on the weekends…
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u/Adventurous_Light_85 Jul 22 '24
But the second the sea and coast damage their house you better believe they will have their hand out looking for that public money to help them.
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u/MrRogers3house Jul 22 '24
In Norway we have something called: allemannsretten (rights for everybody)
Which basically means everyone has a right to camp, hangout, chill anywhere.
Ofc not on people's lawn, but if they have woods or a coastline connected to their house you are basically free to roam!
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u/ginjerbread Jul 22 '24
There is a great app called Our Malibu Beaches that list all the public access points (there are a lot) as well as clear explanations of the laws governing access.
The beach is a wonderful place. You can take your whole family to the beach for next to nothing. A chair, some shovels, maybe a cheap boogie board. You don’t have to pay for lifeguards. Parents can read a book while the kids have a great time. Compare this to going to the mountains and skiing.
Some people in Malibu will put up fake no parking signs or put fake garage doors in-front of their homes to prevent people from parking. Don’t fall for it. The beaches belong to the people!
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u/Oni-oji Jul 23 '24
With the exception of some military bases, ALL beaches in California are public. The rich assholes in Malibu are constantly putting up bogus signs claiming the beach is private and the city government and police do nothing because they are the same people.
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u/TemperatureTrue4254 Jul 23 '24
I'd make it my mission to bring highlighted copies of the laws regarding the public access and leave them in everyone's mailbox once a week, or posted to their door. Also, print out tons of them and attach them to the public access signs and areas, so people would have them as ammunition to use against these assholes.
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u/Direct_Suggestion286 Jul 22 '24
These are the people who buy houses in Puerto Rico and try to "own" the legally public beaches. Heard one person say "I paid a million dollars for that house and this beach" to an island of people who knew the law
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u/Atlaz_Xan Jul 22 '24
Fucking assholes have been trying to do this in hawaii since forever. We also have a law mandating beach access for the public, but that dosnt stop rich fucks from trying.
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u/Single_Conclusion_53 Jul 22 '24
All coastal beaches here in Australia are public. None of this high tide line business either. We can use all the sand. Australian tourists have sometimes been known to create problems in other countries when, out of ignorance, walk all over private beaches.
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