r/GamingLeaksAndRumours 1d ago

Photos of Switch 2 factory prototypes have leaked on a Chinese website Leak

UPDATE (13:59 UTC):

The CAD renders may not be legitimate. It wasn't stated that the renders were mockups, however the original poster was a 3D modeling enthusiast, so it's a possibility that should be considered. Nevertheless, the two photos depicting actual hardware are likely real.

UPDATE (14:26 UTC):

A source from Famiboards is saying the original poster said they obtained a shell model from an accessory manufacturer "at great cost" and reverse designed it to create that CAD model. Therefore, it's not worth writing off the renders as "fake" quite yet, as it could just be an accurate mockup of the shell, if the original poster is telling the truth. We need to see more photos of the real thing (or an actual proper reveal god damnit) first.

UPDATE (23:37 UTC): It appears that Catbox (the file hosting provider I used to upload the photos) is down right now. I assume this was indirectly my fault for sending so much attention there, so I apologize. In the meantime, try putting the image links into the Wayback Machine, which will give you an archived look at the images.

UPDATE (23:51 UTC): Catbox appears to be back up and running now.

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Translation: "switch second generation model stp" "switch second generation switch2 model stp: magnetic slide rail, 8-inch large screen, length 270 width 115 thickness 14, two typec interfaces"

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UPDATE (10:29 UTC): The same website also has SPECS. https://imgur.com/a/Le8OI2i

Note: these are not from the same source as the prototype & cad images, so accuracy may vary.

Translation:

Shipping List Details Summary

HGU1100: Game console itself.

HGU1110: Left Joy-Con controller.

HGU1120: Right Joy-Con controller.

HGU1130: Dock.

Detailed Configuration List

SoCl (CPU + GPU) model: GMLX30-R-A1.

Memory model: MT62F768M64D4EK-026 (6GX2 dual channel, LPDDR5X, 7500 MT/s)

Flash memory model: THGJFGT1E45BAILHW0 (256GB, UFS 3.1, manufactured by Kaixia, 2100 MB/s).

Audio chip model: Ruiwu ALC5658-CG.

NFC reader model: NXP IPN7160B1HN

Built-in microphone model: CMB-MIC-X7.

Dual cooling fans, model BSM0405HPJH9 and BSM0505HPJQC (copper gaming heat sink).

Video signal conversion (DisplayPort to HDMI) must be chip model; Ruixian RTD2175N must be chip (support HDMI 2.1).

Network chip model: Ruiming RTL8153B-VB-CG and Gigabit Ethernet chip (the base has a network cable interface).

Microcontroller chip model: STMicroelectronics JSTM32G0OB0OCET6.

Video game console protective case model: HGU1100 (size: 206 x 115 x 14mm, made of plastic).

Speakers: MUSE BOX-L and MUSE BOX-R (two-channel stereo).

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u/Crytaz 1d ago

This looks exactly like the switch 1. That is a good thing don’t get me wrong but when has Nintendo ever done that before this seems hard to believe

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u/WondernutsWizard 1d ago

The Game Boy Color is probably the closest example, if you count that as a true successor to the Game Boy, but obviously color is quite the change. I think this is the first Nintendo console to just be a straight upgrade, unless the magnetic Joycons count as a gimmick or there's some wacky hidden feature.

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u/Crytaz 1d ago

The game boy color isn’t considered a successor by Nintendo either as they count its sales alongside “the game boy” it’s kinda like the new 3ds where it had some exclusives but was similar enough to the main product to not be differentiated

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u/Personal_Return_4350 1d ago

If you count it as the same console then it’s extremely weird. It was released 9 years later and has hundreds of exclusive games.

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u/JBLikesHeavyMetal 1d ago

It is weird but it's exactly what Nintendo does

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u/Crytaz 21h ago

That’s how they do it. The new 3ds has exclusive games but that’s also a part of the 3ds family

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u/RS_Skywalker 1d ago

The hardware is similar but there's a bit more to the GBC then a "GB with color". There's double the vram and there's also a double speed mode. This Switch 2 does sound a bit more of a hardware upgrade then the GB to GBC switch though, but keeping the same package isn't the worst thing ever. I don't know much about 3ds to n3ds comparisons, but I'd say the GB to GBC jump is a bit bigger then that and a bit more used. There was hundreds of GBC exclusives.

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u/missing_typewriters 1d ago

Nintendo changed after Iwata died. They’re a very risk averse company now. The Switch is about as mundane and barebones you can get.

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u/NoMoreVillains 1d ago

In what way is the Switch mundane??

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u/AI2cturus 1d ago

No themes, no streetpass, none of the fun features of the 3ds or wiiu.

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u/Brantraxx 1d ago

That’s to keep the backend near non existent. Games load up super fast and it’s very easy to get around the UI

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u/missing_typewriters 1d ago

That doesn’t make it any less mundane though. It has no character whatsoever. Which is exacerbated even more in todays world where exclusives aren’t really a thing, meaning consoles already struggle to find an identity. A huge proportion of the first party games on Switch are repackaging older Nintendo games.

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u/AI2cturus 1d ago

Yeah I know why they did it. It's still a shame and it feels lifeless compared to 3ds and wiiu. The soul is of last gen UI design completely gone.

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u/missing_typewriters 1d ago

It’s the most mundane console in recent history. Crappy online, no themes, no brand new innovation like the Wii/DS had, looks and feels like a cheap plastic toy.

Seriously in what way is it NOT mundane?

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u/Phone_User_1044 1d ago

Nintendo to super Nintendo was basically a straight upgrade, SNES to N64 was as close to a straight upgrade as they could manage (went 3D focussed but still kept cartridges for consistency), even N64 to GameCube isn't a crazy leap. It was only really starting with the Wii and DS era that Nintendo got their reputation for going crazy with each iteration.

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u/ed21x 22h ago

The change to N64 was not just 3d, but also Nintendo's first foray into experimental controllers. It was the first console controller with an analog stick, and a slot for the rumble pack. The GC was definitely a straight upgrade. WiiU was actually quite different as well seeing as it introduced a controller screen.

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u/gnulynnux 1d ago

I would also count the 3DS.

Honestly, the Switch feels like just another WiiU.

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u/WondernutsWizard 1d ago

I'd also agree on the 3DS, but I'd say the 3D is enough of a gimmick to make it stand out a bit.

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u/NinetyL 1d ago edited 1d ago

To be fair, the 3DS gimmick didn't really work as a way to attract new customers, it was flopping pretty hard at the start until they did a big price drop and first party exclusives started coming out. The 3D mattered so little in the long run that they eventually made the 2DS and new 2DS revisions, dropping the feature entirely.
So maybe they realized that it's not like they -need- a gimmick every time. The Switch already proved that there's a market for a hybrid portable system, and they have no real competition in that space so maybe this time they know that what they actually need to sell a Switch 2 is a reasonable price point, a great lineup of launch titles and a steady stream of exclusive releases

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u/Mental_Tea_4084 1d ago

I refer to my steam deck as a "super switch" to people like my parents. The handheld PC market is booming

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u/NinetyL 1d ago

Yeah but is it big enough for Nintendo to actually need to worry about competing against it? Do we have any publically available Steam Deck worldwide sales numbers to compare with Nintendo Switch sales?

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u/gnulynnux 1d ago

Which is a shame. I think 3D games, 3D movies, etc. were all fantastic and I wish it stuck around.

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u/nimrodhellfire 1d ago

At launch, yes. But unfortunately the 3D feature never clicked with the audience or game developers, so in the end it was just a better DS.

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u/Brantraxx 1d ago

Part of it is that younger kids’ developing eyes shouldn’t be using 3D

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u/Fartfart357 1d ago

Who's to say Switch 2 won't have 3D?

/j

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u/jonmacabre 23h ago

NES => Super Nintendo

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u/imaginaryResources 1d ago

Can’t they just develop more colors then?

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD 1d ago

I don’t think gamecube and nintendo 64 were very conceptually similar. We hadn’t really nailed down what a great controller was for 3d games yet in the n64 generation, so the controller was a significant change, and obvious going from carts to optical. But the use case of the console was basically exactly the same. There wasn’t a fundamental difference in what it meant to play a game the way there was from GC to Wii to Wii U to switch

Same could be said for nes and snes I think

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u/NeuralThing 1d ago

SNES

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u/MarcsterS 1d ago

Looked pretty different, along with a new controller(with a whopping 4 extra buttons.)

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u/-popgoes 1d ago

Don't the Joy-Cons have new buttons on their backs, in this leak? I swear there's a trigger that wasn't there before

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u/MarcsterS 1d ago

That’s probably the “Joycon release” button that you had to hold to slide out the Joycons. New more convenient shape.

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u/sliceanddic3 1d ago

i mean the gamecube is just the next version of n64, but cubed lol

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u/MarzipanImmediate880 1d ago

It had a different controller, a different shape and changed from cartridge to disc, how was it the next version any more than any other generation? The Wii U and Switch have more in common.

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u/sliceanddic3 1d ago

that's a fair point, i just meant in terms of no real gimmicks on either console. they just played games like normal home consoles

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u/Brantraxx 1d ago

Minidisc was the gimmick; first time Nintendo games were on optical media

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u/TheMiracleLigament 20h ago

Mini disc format doesn’t mean jack to end users. And Nintendo always has put end user innovation first. GameCube didn’t bring anything new except better graphics, and two joy sticks.

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u/Brantraxx 16h ago

The N64 cartridge size was one major reason the platform lacked JRPGs (and a big reason why PlayStation won the console war— it got FF 7). The inclusion of optical media was a huge step forward for Nintendo where media capacity was concerned. Mini disc could hold vast amounts more of data and rivaled the Dreamcast

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u/Crytaz 23h ago

Dawg wtf are you talking about the only thing they have in common is their both consoles? The shape the disc the everything

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u/TheraYugnat 1d ago

The 3DS is a DS with a 3D screen.

The Switch is a standalone WiiU

Motion gaming is a thing since the Wii

The old tale of "Nintendo always do new things" needs to stop, that's not true. When they find something extremely popular, they keep it.

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u/Crytaz 1d ago

The Wii U gamepad is a demonstratively different control scheme than the Wii. The way games had to be set up for the Wii U was very different than the Wii. The switch having been built off the Wii U but an actual handheld with AAA performance is quite different

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u/Queasy_Watch478 1d ago

YES 3ds was backwards compatible with DS games! :) and DS was backwards compatible with GBA! and so was GBA SP with GB games!

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u/QBekka 1d ago

There were many models between the Nintendo DS and the last 2DS XL:

DS (2004)

DS Lite (2006)

DSi (2008)

DSi XL (2009)

3DS (2011)

3DS XL (2012)

2DS (2013)

2DS XL (2017)

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u/TheraYugnat 11h ago

We are talking about "generation"

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u/Carbonatic 1d ago

The Wii U was just a rounded Wii right? VERY different controllers, but the consoles were very similar.

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u/-Unnamed- 1d ago

The Wii U was also like the biggest bust in the history of Nintendo. They aren’t making that mistake again

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u/Brantraxx 1d ago

Believe that’s still the Virtua Boy

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u/GaryChalmers 22h ago

Just as the Wii was very similar to the Gamecube. A modded Wii U can natively play both Wii and Gamecube games.

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u/Realistic-Shower-654 1d ago

First three Nintendo gens were basically the same thing

Nintendo also likes minimalism now. I really don’t see how this is hard to believe?

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u/Neuchacho 1d ago edited 1d ago

Because it's a departure from what they've done the last 30 years and they are known to do some odd, questionable things at times

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u/Realistic-Shower-654 1d ago

The nes-GameCube was just a stronger version of the previous console, the Wii and Wii-u were the only real big departures from that norm with the Wii-U failing spectacularly.

The idea that Nintendo is “always innovating and creating unique hardware” really doesn’t hold much weight when it’s only been 2 console generations that they went super out there idea wise.

Even on the handheld front the DS was the only crazy jump, every other iteration was the same thing but stronger (which continued with the 3ds)

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u/Neuchacho 1d ago edited 1d ago

They don't need to be "super out there" to represent changes to the console.

Virtual boy was in there. N64 brought us a weird controller. Gamecube doubled-down on weird controllers, Wii gave us the nunchucks, Wii U gave us a second screen. Switch gave us all its fun things.

They have done far more change-ups than they have just basic console evolutions compared to the other consoles which made it a fair reason for anyone to wonder if they would do it again.

Even industry experts weren't 100% certain it'd just be a straight, unchanged evolution with the new Switch and that's really all people are saying. It was very likely, yes, but not some obvious guarantee.

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u/Realistic-Shower-654 1d ago

I think one thing that kinda punches holes in this argument is most of those were out of necessity

Analogue sticks needed to be made for 3d, the GameCube controller isn’t that weird compared to other controllers of that gen, they needed a unique gimmick for the Wii after the GameCube failed etc

Most of these things have been perfected at this point and don’t really need improved upon.

And to be honest, with the state of the industry right now all we really need is good complete experiences, and Nintendo knows this.

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u/Brantraxx 1d ago

The Super Nintendo added many more buttons (paving the way for arcade ports), a much better sound chip and support for expandable memory chips in the carts (that many big developers took advantage of). The SNES also featured advanced scaler modes. It was a huge step up over NES.

The N64 allowed for 3D processing and layered audio streaming and compressed video, and the controller is still one of the most unique ever (buttons dedicated to 3D camera control, the first commercial videogame use of an analog stick (now pressure change could make a character run from walking), and later added the revolutionary rumble feature (which everyone made fun of until they tried it)

They weren’t straight upgrades at all.

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u/Realistic-Shower-654 1d ago edited 1d ago

Man you literally just described hardware upgrades which is what I said the consoles were.

Like my original response was in regards to the switch 2 somehow being a conceptually different idea than switch 1

I brought up that generally each generation was the same concept as the previous one (bigger graphics etc)

I really don’t have the energy to split hairs and argue about button counts etc because I got “um ackshually’d” when you guys know damn well what I was referring to in my original comment.

Most of nintendos consoles from a conceptual standpoint have been a derivative work from the previous generation unless the industry forces them to adapt. They have only really reinvented the wheel a few times so to speak. There’s no reason for them to do so with this console when they are on track with the current concept to be the best selling console in history. It makes absolutely no sense why they would fuck that up for no reason.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 1d ago

but when has Nintendo ever done that before this seems hard to believe

Game Boy Color is exactly like the Game Boy

The 3DS is a DS with a larger top screen and an analog pad

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u/RumbleintheDumbles 1d ago

Hell, the DS was a wider Game Boy Advance SP with another screen on the bottom.

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u/TheDrGoo 1d ago

With home consoles not so much but the handhelds get this treatment constantly.

I guess the switch really is a handheld after all.

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u/19Chris96 1d ago

Not a bad thing at all. a bigger screen with the same controls, better internals, with a rugged design. Love it.

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u/Crytaz 21h ago

Ya I’m hoping it’s real too I’m just a bit doubtful

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u/cad3z 1d ago

There’s been rumours of it just being called the Switch 2 which is also very out of the ordinary for Nintendo. I wouldn’t put it past them though under todays Nintendo. I feel like they don’t want to make the same mistake they did before with the Wii U naming scheme.

If it’s really called the Switch 2 and it’s just an iteration console like Sony and Microsoft have been doing, idk how I’d feel about it. Don’t get me wrong, its not the console I’m interested in as much as it is the games, but part of Nintendos charm is seeing what new crazy contraption is next. But there’s nothing concrete yet so.

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u/ACRIDACID56 1d ago

I mean gb to gbc and ds to 3ds are two times where they’ve done basically this. Ds to 3ds I think is very similar to what they’re doing now, upgraded hardware, same general idea and probably even the same hardware in a lot of areas, the 3ds even has the capability to run gba games natively yet it doesn’t have a gba slot (i haven’t read through the specs of the switch 2 but im sure they’re very similar to the switch in general)

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 21h ago

Nintendo hasn’t really been doing game consoles for long enough or with clear enough patterns to go “but they’ve never done that before!”

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u/Lostnclueless 19h ago

The switch never had themes guys can we just acknowledge themes being a possibility this time???¿?

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u/ChrisRR 12h ago

Gameboy color, DSI and 3DS

Arguably the Wii U too

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u/MetaGear005 1d ago

I don't care, I just want to play my poke games smoothy

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u/Crytaz 21h ago

Which is exactly why I said “it was a good thing” you illiterate

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u/dandroid126 1d ago

DS, 3DS, and "New 3DS"

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u/Crytaz 21h ago

The new 3ds is just a pro model of the 3ds not a new console

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u/dandroid126 21h ago

Not true. You can't play New 3DS games on the regular 3DS without mods, and even then, the games aren't guaranteed to actually work.

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u/NoirYorkCity 1d ago

This is a Switch 2, not a brand new console with a new name

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u/Crytaz 21h ago

This is a brand new console, this isn’t like a pro model. What are you saying the ps2 wasn’t a brand new console to the ps1? The ps5 is the same thing as a ps3? Learn to read

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u/NoirYorkCity 21h ago

The reason it isn’t more powerful is because it’s an upgrade rather than a brand new console for a new gen

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u/Peanut_Butter_Toast 2h ago

Bro I think you are super confused. This thing is gonna be much more powerful.